Comments on: Alcibiades: cad, charmer, hero, foil to Socrates

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Mon, 06 Dec 2010 19:11:56 +0000

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By: Ancient Greece and Little Cheri « Notes from Around the Block

Ancient Greece and Little Cheri « Notes from Around the Block — Mon, 10 May 2010 22:15:20 +0000

[...] ready herself for her class on the Athenian citizen Alcibiades, Adult Cheri is reading Plato’s Symposium as part of her [...]

By: andreaskluth

andreaskluth — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:57:45 +0000

Yes, we can, but you have to start (on your blog?). You’re ahead of all of us. I know that a lot of the “greek” and “jewish” myths originated in Mesopotamia, around the time of the Gilgamesh. Aphrodite (ie, goddess foaming out of genitals hurled into the sea). But you’re the one reading it now….

By: Cheri

Cheri — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:15:51 +0000

I hate to be rude, but can we get back to the Greeks? Or, in preparation for my class next week, can we compare the similarities of the Epic of Gilgamesh, this version written in 1800 BCE, with Genesis, written in 600 BCE? Can we discuss the fact that in the Epic, there was a flood, a Noah figure, a snake, a forest with an important tree, a poem from which Ecclesiastes was copied? Can we do that?

By: andreaskluth

andreaskluth — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:59:22 +0000

Quite a bit, I suggest. I think of him as antiquity’s Felix Krull (a Thomas Mann character). More than that, as I tried to say, I think of him as a foil to Socrates, as a sort of alter ego or complement.

By: Cheri

Cheri — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:14:37 +0000

I’m curious now.
How much depth of character did this historical figure
have?

By: exuvia

exuvia — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:38:47 +0000

SOCRATIC IRONY:

Presenting yourself in a way that doesn’t daunt the important other(s); making the world comfortable before greatness, presenting a beautiful lie instead of the ugly truth that: greatness is truly scarce. It seems kind even if it is hiding the facts.

It hides so as not to offend or, even more delicately, so as not to shame humans given to self loathing and the search for their own inferiority.

This lack of a need to cash in natures talent against another’s lack speaks of a humble state of self; a very desirable condition of rest offering ample opportunity to look to important matters above and beyond the competitive urge of the regular narcissist.

Whether ovarian or testicular, Alcibiades seems a common type in corporate culture.