Comments on: Uniting the two kinds of enlightenment

By: saronguardian

saronguardian — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:32:46 +0000

I am a trance channel for a Seraphim Angel by the name of Saron. His main purpose is to put people on or keep people on the pathway to ascension or enlightenment. I channel publicly weekly at the Ganesha Center in Las Vegas, NV. You can find my blog at:
http://saronguardian.wordpress.com

I love your blog!
Thank you for doing what you do!

Erik

By: The western tradition mapped to the human body « Designism

The western tradition mapped to the human body « Designism — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:01:02 +0000

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By: andreaskluth

andreaskluth — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:08:46 +0000

Interesting: Either … Or….
Perhaps you’re right.

By: andreaskluth

andreaskluth — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:06:58 +0000

Coquette!

By: Jag

Jag — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:19:51 +0000

More teasing definitely in the offing.

Beginning with the fact that the burdens of the enlightenment of which I shall say more later, is related to neither of your guesses.

By: andreaskluth

andreaskluth — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:38:36 +0000

Well, now you have my attention. I do hope you will tease us more.

Since you got me thinking:

- If you’re going to blame the latter parts of the French Revolution on the Enlightenment, I don’t think you can.
- If you’re going to criticize the scientific method you’ll find it difficult but you can certainly blame the Enlightenment for giving it to us.

By: Jag

Jag — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:56:24 +0000

Hi Andreas – I’m encouraged that a Renaissance-man such as yourself, can’t come up with some (Western) Enlightenment errors off the cuff… it give me hope that there might be a market for my ideas… which I hint at in Hanging Noodles….

So I hope you’ll forgive my evasive response, I’m in the process of putting together a proposal for a book to explain how science is now challenging some cherished assumptions of our Enlightened age.

Hopefully will be able to reveal more soon.

By: exuvia

exuvia — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:44:14 +0000

The two types of Light seem to have very different characteristics and spheres of action. One is absorbed the other absorbs. One makes the mind active the other stills the mind. They seem to compete for attention and a choice must be made; either or… as I understand them, each awakens to a different reality. One might reward you with a Nobel price the other will give you nothing to show for your attainment. I do not see them converge.

The differential diagnostic is appropriate.

It also shows the emphasis on different values between East and West.

By: andreaskluth

andreaskluth — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:54:33 +0000

What errors do you think the up-clear-ing left us burdened with? I can’t think of any.

Yes, i did read Brooks’ column and liked it. He’s a blogger, really, who happens to have a column. I found myself agreeing that character is situational and contextual. But that was in the context of his column.

By: andreaskluth

andreaskluth — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:50:00 +0000

Thanks for this. I can never get enough of him.

There you have him (Erhard) in the picture, and next to him Adenauer, the Cato to his Scipio. (Only very regular readers, admittedly, will know what I mean by that.)

By: andreaskluth

andreaskluth — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:48:33 +0000

What a perceptive insight. I hadn’t made the connection to Jung, but yes, I suppose your onto something. Jung himself would certainly approve!

By: Jag

Jag — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:13:40 +0000

Fascinating and enlightening post – love the German etymologies. I’ve long used/abused/bemoaned the distinction (including on your last Maslow post).

Though the Western “up-clear-ing” was major progress over what preceded it, it has left us now burdened by some of its errors.

On a related theme – did you read Brooks’ column in today’s NYT?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/opinion/20brooks.html

He compares philosophical vs psychological insights & science

“we [each] are a community of competing selves”

“[Human b]ehavior does not exhibit what the psychologists call “cross-situational stability.”

and ending with

“these two views of conduct are in conversation, not conflict. But it does seem we’re in one of those periods when words like character fall into dispute and change their meaning.”

By: Phillip S Phogg

Phillip S Phogg — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:16:54 +0000

Slightly (ever so) off topic. While perusing the web page of Der Spiegel, I happened upon the article below, and thought you might find it of interest, though doubtless you’ll find it “old hat”.

http://einestages.spiegel.de/static/topicalbumbackground/449/ludwig_erhard_wird_kanzler.html

By: Phillip S Phogg

Phillip S Phogg — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:54:34 +0000

The way I see it, is that “Aufklärung” deals with our conscious intellect; and “Erleuchtung”, our unconscious “emotional” side. True “enlightenment” is a marrying (or synthesis) of the two.

Does the Jungian “individuation” describe best this synthesis? Could it be that it is the “individuated” man (person) who occupies the top of Maslow’s pyramid?