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		<title>Hannibal/Hasdrubal/Mago &gt; Danny/Ben/Sam</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sucks that I can&#8217;t watch the Beeb from here in the US. That&#8217;s because something fun is on the telly there. Three brothers &#8212; Danny, Ben and Sam Wood &#8212; are tracing the route that Hannibal took, from Spain through France and over the Alps into Italy, and thence to Tunisia and perhaps onward. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=10041&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sucks that I can&#8217;t watch the Beeb from here in the US. That&#8217;s because something fun is on the telly there.</p>
<p>Three brothers &#8212; <a href="http://www.woodbrothers.tv/" target="_blank">Danny, Ben and Sam Wood</a> &#8212; are tracing the route that Hannibal took, from Spain through France and over the Alps into Italy, and thence to Tunisia and perhaps onward. (<a href="http://andreaskluth.org/2011/10/14/hannibals-lifetime-path-the-map/" target="_blank">Here is a map</a> of Hannibal&#8217;s lifetime path.)</p>
<p>They&#8217;re doing it by bike, instead of elephant.</p>
<p>What does this show? That Hannibal maintains his eerie ability to inspire us modern types today, just as he inspired me to write <a href="http://andreaskluth.org/about-the-book/" target="_blank">my book</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;So we also feel a certain sense of &#8216;Hannibal and Me&#8217;,&#8221; as Danny, also a journalist, emailed me this week.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in Britain, follow them on the BBC. And good luck, lads!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a taste:</p>
<div class='embed-vimeo' style='text-align:center;'><iframe src='http://player.vimeo.com/video/27578251' width='400' height='300' frameborder='0'></iframe></div>
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		<title>Hannibal &amp; Me: The excerpt in Salon.com</title>
		<link>http://andreaskluth.org/2011/12/17/hannibal-me-the-excerpt-in-salon-com/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a very, very strange experience it is to see an excerpt of my own book on a famous website. Salon.com has just posted exactly that. Thank you, Salon! Filed under: Books, Carthage, disaster, failure, Hannibal, Hannibal and Me, Life, Scipio, Story-telling, success, writing Tagged: Salon.com<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=9736&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>What a very, very strange experience it is to see an excerpt of my own book on a famous website.</p>
<p><a href="http://politics.salon.com/writer/andreas_kluth/" target="_blank">Salon.com has just posted exactly that</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Salon!</p>
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		<title>Hannibal&#8217;s lifetime path: the map</title>
		<link>http://andreaskluth.org/2011/10/14/hannibals-lifetime-path-the-map/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look at this beautiful map. It depicts the dramatically simplified life path that Hannibal probably took. And you&#8217;ll find it in the beginning of my book. The mapmaker and copyright owner is David Lindroth, a cartographer who seems to specialize in historical, educational, fictional and other unusually interesting maps. I first came across David&#8217;s name [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=9377&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_9380" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 496px"><img class="size-full wp-image-9380   " title="Kluth Lindroth Hannibal Map" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/kluth-lindroth-hannibal-map1.jpg" alt="" width="486" height="296" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Copyright David Lindroth</p></div>
<p>Look at this beautiful map. It depicts the dramatically simplified life path that Hannibal probably took. And you&#8217;ll find it in the beginning of my book.</p>
<p>The mapmaker and copyright owner is <a href="http://lindrothmaps.com/" target="_blank">David Lindroth</a>, a cartographer who seems to specialize in historical, educational, fictional and other unusually interesting maps.</p>
<p>I first came across David&#8217;s name when I saw a different version of this map by him in <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ghosts-Cannae-Hannibal-Darkest-Republic/dp/1400067022" target="_blank">The Ghosts of Cannae</a></em>, a great book about Hannibal by Robert O&#8217;Connell. (It came out last year, after I finished my manuscript, so it was unfortunately too late to be one of my sources.)</p>
<p>So I called David and he made this map for me. We put in some of the battle sites and other places of interest in the book, including Hannibal&#8217;s sketchy meanderings in the eastern Mediterranean in his final years.</p>
<p>Anyway, you know I like maps. Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>Hannibal v Rome, the game</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 23:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of you (Thank you!) has pointed me to Hannibal: Rome vs Carthage, a game for connoisseurs of this sort of thing (available on Amazon, too). You can replay Hannibal&#8217;s strategy &#8230; and tactics, apparently. Cannae could go to the Romans, Zama to Carthage. (And we today might all have Carthaginian, instead of Roman, government [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=8409&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://valleygames.ca/our-games/tactics-line/hannibal-rome-vs-carthage/box_large_hannibal/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-8410" title="Hannibal game" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/hannibal-game.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="249" /></a></p>
<p>One of you (Thank you!) has pointed me to <em><a href="http://valleygames.ca/our-games/tactics-line/hannibal-rome-vs-carthage/box_large_hannibal/" target="_blank">Hannibal: Rome vs Carthage</a></em>, a game for connoisseurs of this sort of thing (available <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Valley-Games-401VLY-Hannibal-Carthage/dp/1427616485" target="_blank">on Amazon</a>, too). You can replay Hannibal&#8217;s strategy &#8230; and tactics, apparently. Cannae could go to the Romans, Zama to Carthage. (And we today might all have Carthaginian, <a href="/2009/03/06/our-roman-world-2009/">instead of Roman, government buildings</a>.)</p>
<p>Aside from all that, just savor the rather different visual interpretation of the general, vis-a-vis the one Riverhead expressed on the <a href="/2011/05/09/hannibal-and-me-the-book-jacket/">jacket cover of my book</a>. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Now that&#8217;s what I call a Carthaginian!</p>
<p>And for the history geeks: You notice the Hannibal above has both of his eyes. And the Alps are behind him. When he came out of the Alps, he did indeed have them both. He lost one of them to conjunctivitis seven months later, while wading through a fetid Etruscan (= Tuscan) swamp.</p>
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		<title>My Elephantine mistake</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 21:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been telling you something very wrong about Hannibal&#8217;s elephants all this time. Not deliberately, mind you. Almost three years ago, when I wrote my post &#8220;about Hannibal&#8217;s elephants&#8220;, I was really just kidding around, as I was in the early stages of research for my book. The levity, I thought, was abundantly obvious from [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=8079&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_8080" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/12/there_are_two_species_of_afric.php"><img class="size-medium wp-image-8080" title="Elephant evolution" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/elephant-evolution.jpg?w=300&#038;h=260" alt="" width="300" height="260" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Copyright: Shoshani and Tassy 2004</p></div>
<p>I&#8217;ve been telling you something very wrong about Hannibal&#8217;s elephants all this time. Not deliberately, mind you.</p>
<p>Almost three years ago, when I wrote my post &#8220;<a href="/2008/08/14/about-hannibals-elephants/">about Hannibal&#8217;s elephants</a>&#8220;, I was really just kidding around, as I was in the early stages of research for my book. The levity, I thought, was abundantly obvious from my treatment of the subject. I did not mean to imply that I had any idea of what I was talking about (although I sort of do now).</p>
<p>I was, you see, a <em>blogger! </em>(Ie, I was more interested in thinking out loud, and getting readers to correct me, than in pontificating authoritatively.)</p>
<p>To my surprise, that particular blog post keeps getting a lot of traffic. In fact, its traffic is <em>increasing</em>. I have no idea why, so I must guess that the Google gods are sending people its way (which should cast aspersions on Google&#8217;s algorithms, not on my post). Those of you who blog may have made the same discovery: those posts you think are most valuable are not at all the ones that attract the eyeballs, and vice versa.</p>
<p>So I will set the record straight in this post. But first, I&#8217;m delighted what the earlier post has already done: It has brought me many of my readers (mostly the silent, non-commenting type). One of you has even (hush, hush) hinted that you might write a children&#8217;s book about Hannibal&#8217;s elephants &#8212; and I have voluteered my own kids and me as the first readers.</p>
<p>Now: The first question is how many elephants Hannibal brought with him when he left Iberia to cross the Alps and attack Rome. I&#8217;ve read the number 37, but Serge Lancel, the late French historian who seems to know best, says 27 (on page 63 of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Hannibal-Serge-Lancel/dp/0631218483" target="_blank">his book</a>). So I&#8217;m going with that. Personally, I don&#8217;t really care about the real number. It changes nothing in the story and the drama.</p>
<p>The second question &#8212; and the one I answered wrong &#8212; is: which kind of elephant?</p>
<p>The correct answer is the <em>African Forest Elephant</em>, or <em>Loxodonta cyclotis</em>:</p>
<div id="attachment_8088" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Loxodontacyclotis.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-8088" title="Forest elephant" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/forest-elephant.jpg?w=300&#038;h=199" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Click for attribution</p></div>
<p>As it happens, we very recently (last year) discovered that these elephants were an entirely different species (as opposed to just a sub-species) of elephant. So you should imagine the (older) genealogical tree at the top with another twig on the third branch from the right, as <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/12/there_are_two_species_of_afric.php" target="_blank">this blog post</a> explains.</p>
<p>The discovery comes via DNA analysis from Nadine Rohland, David Reich, Swapan Mallick, Matthias Meyer, Richard Green, et al., who summarize their findings <a href="http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pbio.1000564" target="_blank">here</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our data establish that the Asian elephant is the closest living relative of the extinct mammoth&#8230; We also find that <strong>savanna</strong> and <strong>forest elephants</strong>, which some have argued are the same species, are as or more divergent in the nuclear genome as mammoths and Asian elephants, which are considered to be distinct genera&#8230; The divergence of African savanna and forest elephants—which some have argued to be two populations of the same species—is about as ancient as the divergence of Asian elephants and mammoths&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>So it is those forest elephants that Hannibal brought with him. They were quite a bit smaller than the savanna elephants of Africa. So artists have, for millennia, exaggerated their size.</p>
<p>Or have they? Generations of boys reading about Hannibal must have <em>imagined</em> them just as the young Roman legionaries <em>perceived</em> them, which is roughly thus:</p>
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		<title>Roman Jefferson v Carthaginian Hamilton</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve mentioned a few times just how much our Founding Fathers were influenced by &#8212; and saw themselves as heirs to &#8212; republican Rome. That&#8217;s why both our federal and state buildings tend to look like Roman temples. Two excellent books I&#8217;ve been reading lately have brought home to me just how direct that influence [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=5638&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve mentioned a few times just how much our Founding Fathers were influenced by &#8212; <a href="/2008/10/21/america-as-the-new-rome-polybius-and-us/">and saw themselves as heirs to</a> &#8212; republican Rome. That&#8217;s why both our <a href="/2009/03/06/our-roman-world-2009/">federal</a> and <a href="/2009/05/21/postcard-from-yet-another-mount-olymp/">state</a> buildings tend to look like Roman temples.</p>
<p>Two excellent books I&#8217;ve been reading lately have brought home to me just how direct that influence was for specific Founding Fathers such as Thomas Jefferson. Not only did Jefferson &#8220;inherit&#8221; certain Roman political ideals (as he understood them) but he also adopted the hatreds and propaganda of republican Rome. This meant:</p>
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<li>Rome = good = America</li>
<li>Carthage = bad = Britain</li>
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<p>Here Jefferson talks about Britain (from <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Carthage-Must-Destroyed-Richard-Miles/dp/0141018097" target="_blank">Richard Miles, </a><em><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Carthage-Must-Destroyed-Richard-Miles/dp/0141018097" target="_blank">Carthage Must Be Destroyed</a></em>):</p>
<blockquote><p>Her good faith!The faith of a nation of merchants! The Punica fides of modern Carthage.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Punica fide</em>s means <em>Punic faith.</em> The Romans and Jefferson used the term ironically to mean <em>faithlessness</em>.</p>
<p>The Romans looked down on the Carthaginians (who were Phoenician traders) as merchants, and Jefferson inherited that attitude as well. (Napoleon, too, condescended to the English as &#8220;shopkeepers.&#8221;) Romans and Americans, Jefferson implied, were above such corrupt Carthaginian and British habits as commerce and banking.</p>
<div id="attachment_5766" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 190px"><img class="size-full wp-image-5766 " title="Alexander Hamilton" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/alexander-hamilton.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="225" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Alexander Hamilton</p></div>
<p>When Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and other &#8220;republicans&#8221; (they deliberately named their faction to evoke republican Rome) began their hysterical conspiracy to bring down Alexander Hamilton, who in their fantasies had British and monarchical leanings, one of Hamilton&#8217;s friends warned him thus (from<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Alexander-Hamilton-Ron-Chernow/dp/1594200092" target="_blank"> Ron Chernow, </a><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Alexander-Hamilton-Ron-Chernow/dp/1594200092" target="_blank">Alexander Hamilton</a></em>, p. 391):</p>
<blockquote><p>Delenda est Carthago, I suppose, is the maxim adopted with respect to you.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Delenda est Carthago</em> means <em>Carthage must be destroyed</em>. It was the infamous phrase with which <a href="/2009/01/16/beware-the-catos-in-your-life/">Cato the Elder</a> ended every speech he gave until Rome indeed decided to <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">destroy Carthage</a>.</p>
<p>So to Jefferson, Hamilton was a sort of Hannibal?</p>
<p>Much more about all this in later posts. But you can already infer where my sympathies would have lain in this Founding Father soap opera.</p>
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		<title>Carthage&#8217;s urns of little bones</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 16:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When future archeologists, two millennia hence, dig out our civilization &#8212; our bombing ranges or nuclear sites, for example &#8212; what will they infer about us? Inevitably, their values will be so different from ours that we will seem alien to them. So they will try to refrain from judgment and focus merely on understanding. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=5286&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>When future archeologists, two millennia hence, dig out our civilization &#8212; our <a href="http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/UT3182/" target="_blank">bombing ranges</a> or <a href="http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/NV3143/" target="_blank">nuclear sites</a>, for example &#8212; what will they infer about us? Inevitably, their values will be so different from ours that we will seem alien to them. So they will try to refrain from judgment and focus merely on understanding.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in the same situation when we dig out the past. When we dug out <a href="/category/Carthage/">Carthage</a>, for example.</p>
<p>We know that the Carthaginians, like their Phoenician ancestors and apparently all Canaanites, sacrificed their first-born sons at times of crisis, apparently to appease gods like Baal and Tanit (roughly Zeus and Juno), Melqart, Astarte, et cetera.</p>
<p>We countenance the story of Abraham and Isaac (Sarah&#8217;s first-born though not Abraham&#8217;s) in the Bible, allegedly &#8220;our&#8221; book, largely because Yahweh withdrew his request to sacrifice Isaac at the last moment. But we might just as well contemplate how 1) Abraham had not, up to that point, considered the demand all that  <em>unusual</em>, and 2) how most <em>other</em> situations at the time would indeed have ended with the sacrifice.</p>
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<p>We know that the sacrifices were common in Carthage, too, because we found the &#8220;tophets&#8221;, or furnaces, where the infants were killed. They contain charred, calcified bones of both animals and human children. For a while, we comforted ourselves with theories that they might have burnt stillborn or dead infants, that these were really burial grounds disguised as human-sacrifice altars. But most scholars now believe that they really did, on occasion, kill their own sons, right up to the time of Hannibal.</p>
<p>I just finished Richard Miles&#8217; “<a href="http://www.penguin.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780713997934,00.html" target="_blank">Carthage Must Be Destroyed</a>,” a new history of Carthage and a last-minute addition to <a href="/tag/bibliography/">my bibliography</a> (almost certainly the last, because I&#8217;m essentially done).</p>
<p>Admittedly, those of you just getting into ancient history (perhaps through <em>The Hannibal Blog</em>?) might prefer to start with Rome or Greece, but if you&#8217;re interested in Carthage, this is as good a history as any. Well-written, not pompous, aimed at normal readers not fellow academics.</p>
<p>Miles deals elegantly with issues like the child sacrifice. He also unifies the entire history of Carthage &#8212; from its <a href="/2008/10/31/hannibals-y-chromosome/">Phoenician (Tyrian) beginnings</a> to its end in the <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">Roman genocide</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good book.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;re taking a 12-minute cappuccino break, watch me give this &#8220;teaser&#8221; about my book at our (The Economist&#8216;s) recent innovation conference in Berkeley. (You&#8217;ll also find most of the other sessions on video now, including those with Arianna Huffington, Jared Diamond, Matt Mullenweg, et cetera.) I&#8217;m not good at &#8220;teasers&#8221; or &#8220;elevator pitches&#8221;, especially [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=5156&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>If you&#8217;re taking a 12-minute cappuccino break, watch me give this &#8220;teaser&#8221; about my book at our (<em>The Economist</em>&#8216;s) recent innovation conference in Berkeley.</p>
<p>(You&#8217;ll also find most of the <a href="http://ideas.economist.com/content/video" target="_blank">other sessions on video </a>now, including those with Arianna Huffington, Jared Diamond, Matt Mullenweg, et cetera.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not good at &#8220;teasers&#8221; or &#8220;elevator pitches&#8221;, especially since I tried to tell a story in my book that would keep you reading for 100,000 words. But I&#8217;m constantly being told that I now have to practice condensing that story into two <em>seconds</em> for some occasions (cocktail parties, elevators), two <em>minutes</em> for other occasions, 10 minutes for yet others, and so on.</p>
<p>So, er, I&#8217;m practicing. (Even while determined not to give too much away yet.)</p>
<p>Your feedback would be welcome. Do I snare your interest or do you say &#8216;so what&#8217;? Are there howling non sequiturs, or does it make sense? And so forth.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[What role did Carthage and Hannibal play in the history of Rome as Virgil saw it &#8212; ie, in the entire millennium between the Trojan War and Emperor Augustus? Last time in this mini-thread on the Aeneid, I tried to sketch the big historical picture of that great poem, the overarching tale of how a band [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=4617&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>What role did <a href="/category/Carthage/">Carthage</a> and <a href="/category/Hannibal/">Hannibal</a> play in the history of Rome as Virgil saw it &#8212; ie, in the entire millennium between the Trojan War and Emperor Augustus?</p>
<p>Last time in this mini-thread on the <a href="/tag/aeneid/">Aeneid</a>, I tried to sketch <a href="/2010/02/11/trojanroman-aeneas-the-historical-big-picture/">the big historical picture</a> of that great poem, the overarching tale of how a band of Trojan survivors arrived in Italy and merged with the Latin race to found what would become, fifteen generations hence, the Roman nation.</p>
<p>But I promised in that post to pay a bit more attention to Hannibal and Carthage. For Aeneas the Trojan, the three Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage would not <a href="/2009/04/08/oops-we-started-a-world-war/">start</a> for another thousand years. For Virgil and Augustus, the worst memories of those Punic Wars (ie, the years when Hannibal was in Italy) already lay two centuries in the past. Did Carthage need to be in this story at all?</p>
<p>And how.</p>
<p>It is clear that Virgil and the Romans in the time of Augustus still considered Hannibal their worst enemy ever, the man who brought them closest to extinction. And so Virgil almost stuctures the entire poem around Carthage, albeit in very subtle and psychologically surprising ways. Here goes:</p>
<h2>Juno (Hera) again&#8230;.</h2>
<p>Hera, whom the Romans called Juno, has already come up repeatedly as an almost generic source of trouble in antiquity, as <a href="/2009/12/10/brute-and-primal-hero-hercules/">when she drove Hercules mad</a> in her jealousy. Well, the Aeneid takes place just after the Trojan War, and Virgil has Juno still seething with rage at <a href="/2009/06/18/good-bad-conversations-recognize-eris/">the indignity that caused that war</a>, which was Paris&#8217; choice of Aphrodite (Venus) over Hera as &#8220;the most beautiful.&#8221; Venus, of course, not only went on to fight for the Trojans but was also the mother of Aeneas.</p>
<p>So Juno would do everything she could to torment Aeneas:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; the origins of that anger, that suffering, still rankled: deep within her, hidden away, the judgment Paris gave, snubbing her loveliness; the race she hated&#8230; (I, 38-41)</p></blockquote>
<p>And so Virgil starts his poem, on the very first page, with Juno and her new obsession, which is Carthage (&#8220;new city&#8221; in Punic), which was just then being built, at least in this mythical version:</p>
<blockquote><p>Tyrian settlers in that ancient time held Carthage, on the far shore of the sea, set against Italy and Tiber&#8217;s mouth, a rich new town, warlike and trained for war. And Juno, we are told, cared more for Carthage than for any walled city of the earth&#8230; There her armor and chariot were kept, and, <strong>fate permitting, Carthage would be the ruler of the world</strong>. <strong>So she intended, and so nursed that power</strong>. But she had heard long since that <strong>generations born of Trojan blood would one day overthrow her Tyrian walls</strong>, and from that blood a race would come in time with ample kingdoms, arrogant in war, for Libya&#8217;s ruin&#8230; (I, 20-32)</p></blockquote>
<p>There, in a nutshell, you already have it all: Juno would nurse Carthage to become the world power, and yet she already knew that destiny intended, after a bloody struggle, for Rome to &#8220;overthrow its walls&#8221; and be its &#8220;<a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">ruin</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<em>Tyrian</em> refers to Tyre, Carthage&#8217;s mother city in Phoenicia, today&#8217;s Lebanon. <em><a href="/2008/08/23/carthaginians-and-libyans/">Libya</a></em><a href="/2008/08/23/carthaginians-and-libyans/"> at the time</a> referred to the inhabitants of northern Africa.)</p>
<h2>Carthage as eastern temptress</h2>
<p>Aeneas and his Trojans, meanwhile, are at sea, trying to reach Italy. Juno tries to kill them, by persuading the god of winds to cause a storm. She almost succeeds. 13 of Aeneas ships sink, and only 7 remain. And where do they land?</p>
<p>At Carthage, as it is being built. Its ruler is the beautiful and good queen Dido. Dido is more than generous to these Trojan refugees. She even offers to share her kingdom:</p>
<blockquote><p>Would you care to join us in this realm on equal terms? The city I build is yours; haul up your ships; Trojan and Tyrian will be all one to me. (I, 776-779.)</p></blockquote>
<p>And then she beholds Aeneas, the Trojan leader, and falls for him,</p>
<blockquote><p>for she who bore him [Venus] breathed upon him beauty of hair and bloom of youth and kindled brilliance in his eyes&#8230;. (I, 801-803)</p></blockquote>
<p>From the start, there is a scintillating and even erotic chemistry between &#8220;Carthage&#8221; and &#8220;Rome&#8221;, these two opposites who are yet <a href="/2009/03/09/carthage-and-rome-murderous-twins/">so attracted to each other</a>.</p>
<p>So Dido asks to hear Aeneas tell of the sack of Troy, that Greek genocide about which all people in the Mediterranean had by then heard. Aeneas describes it, in Book II of the Aeneid, in harrowing detail (in the picture above, Dido is listening to him as Ascanius, Aeneas&#8217; little boy, sits on her lap). Aeneas also tells of his wanderings, his &#8220;Odyssey&#8221;, that brought him from Troy to Carthage.</p>
<p>Did0 listens and is rapt:</p>
<blockquote><p>The queen, for her part, all that evening ached with longing that her heart&#8217;s blood fed, a wound or inward fire eating her away. The manhood of the man, his pride of birth, came home to her time and again; his looks, his words remained with her to haunt her mind, and desire for him gave her no rest. (IV, 1-7)</p></blockquote>
<p>They get together, in a wild cave on a wild night. It must have been great, for she wants more, infinitely more. In fact, she considers herself married.</p>
<p>Virgil&#8217;s Roman audience at this point pictures not only the temptresses that tried to seduce Odysseus but <a href="/tag/cleopatra/">Cleopatra</a>, another queen in northern Africa who had very recently led astray a great Roman (Mark Antony) with her wily and erotic eastern ways. This is titillating stuff to the Romans.</p>
<p>Indeed, Aeneas almost seems inclined to change his plans and stay with Dido. But this is not his <em>duty</em>, and he is &#8220;dutiful Aeneas&#8221;, <em>pius Aeneas</em>. Jupiter, via Mercury, reminds him unequivocally of his destiny: to go to Italy and sire the Roman race.</p>
<p>Aeneas understands and decides to be on his way. But he doesn&#8217;t know how to tell Dido. Indeed he <em>fears</em> her. So he orders the ships to prepare to sail away at night.</p>
<p>Dido finds out and goes into a rage, <a href="http://cheriblocksabraw.com/2009/11/13/dido-queen-of-the-ancient-meltdown/" target="_blank">the mother of all meltdowns</a>. As <a href="http://cheriblocksabraw.com/" target="_blank">Cheri</a> has said elsewhere, it is not a testosterone rage as Hercules might have it, defined as violent, intense and <em>short</em>. No, it is an &#8220;estrogen rage&#8221;: deep, lingering, even eternal and ultimately more destructive.</p>
<p>Thus Dido (Carthage) ceases being Aeneas&#8217; (Rome&#8217;s) lover and becomes instead his enemy, indeed the enemy of his entire race:</p>
<blockquote><p>Then, O my Tyrians, besiege with hate his progeny and all his race to come: Make this your offering to my dust. <strong>No love, no pact must be between our peoples</strong>; No, but rise up from my bones, <strong>avenging spirit</strong>! Harry with fire and sword &#8230; Coast with coast in conflict, I implore, and sea with sea, and arms with arms: may they contend in war, themselves and all the children of their children! (IV, 865-875)</p></blockquote>
<p>Then she stabs herself with a sword and hurls herself on a funeral pyre.</p>
<p>Every Roman of Virgil&#8217;s day would have understood whom Dido was summoning as this &#8220;avenging spirit&#8221;: <strong>Hannibal</strong>.</p>
<p>Indeed, just in case anybody was still confused, Virgil later, in Book X, has Jupiter himself make it more explicit. At a council of the gods on Olympus, Jupiter says</p>
<blockquote><p>the time for war will come &#8212; you need not press for it &#8212; that day when through the Alps laid open wide the savagery of Carthage blights the towns and towers of Rome. (X15-19)</p></blockquote>
<p>You almost get the sense that the entire Aeneid was mere prologue &#8230; to this:</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s in a word: Rostrum</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you speak in front of people, you &#8220;take the rostrum&#8220;. Literally, you are &#8220;taking the beak&#8221;. The what? Why would you do anything so odd when everybody is watching? It turns out that, like so much else in our lives, our phrase for pulpit or lectern&#8211;ie, rostrum&#8211;has everything to do with the story that [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1971&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>When you speak in front of people, you &#8220;take the <em>rostrum</em>&#8220;. Literally, you are &#8220;taking the beak&#8221;. The what? Why would you do anything so odd when everybody is watching?</p>
<p>It turns out that, <a href="/2009/03/06/our-roman-world-2009/#comment-1198">like so much else in our lives</a>, our phrase for <em>pulpit</em> or <em>lectern</em>&#8211;ie, <em>rostrum</em>&#8211;has everything to do with the story that forms the historical backdrop for the main characters in <a href="/about-the-book/">my forthcoming book</a>. Recall that we left off describing the<a href="/2009/04/08/oops-we-started-a-world-war/"> foolish and tragicomic cock-up</a> that led to two world wars and then a <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">genocide</a>. Well, the first of those wars &#8220;produced&#8221; quite a bit of flotsam, which the Romans called <em>rostra</em>.</p>
<p>We are talking now about the 23-year-long First Punic War between Rome and Carthage that started in 264 BCE. This war was about the island of Sicily. Both the Romans and the Carthaginians rather wanted it. There was a lot of fighting on the actual island, but the most dramatic and spectacular battles were sea battles. In fact, one of these may have been the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_naval_battle_in_history" target="_blank">single largest naval battle</a> in all of history, involving 200,000 sailors and soldiers!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve been reading <em>The Hannibal Blog</em> for a while, this might strike you as odd. Yes, Carthage was a great naval power, so that makes sense. But Rome was not. In fact, Rome <em>had no navy at all</em> at the start of the war.</p>
<p>Well, the Romans changed that. At one point, they captured a Carthaginian ship, studied it, and copied it again and again, until they had an entire fleet. This was the &#8216;reverse-engineering&#8217; part.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Corvus.svg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1973" title="517px-corvussvg" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/517px-corvussvg.png" alt="517px-corvussvg" width="217" height="165" /></a>Next came a bit of innovation. They added an ingenious weapon to their ships. This was the &#8220;raven&#8221; (<em>corvus</em>), a large swivel bridge that the Romans brought crashing down onto an enemy ship when they pulled up alongside of it. The two ships were then tied together as a large floating platform, and the Roman soldiers stormed across. In effect, the Romans had thereby found a way to turn sea battles into land battles, and they tended to win land battles.</p>
<p>Now to those <em>rostra</em>, or <em>beaks</em>: It&#8217;s what the Romans called the<em> prows</em> of galleys. After their first big naval victory, the Carthaginian ships were sinking or floating in the water in pieces, so the Romans fished out the prows, brought them to Rome and stuck them onto the speaker&#8217;s pulpit in the Forum, as in the image at the very top of this post.</p>
<p>It was the equivalent, you might say, of an Indian hanging the scalps of his enemies above his tent.</p>
<p>And so, ever since, speakers in Rome and elsewhere have been taking the beak.<br />
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		<title>Oops, we started a world war</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Life, or history, is a tragicomedy. A lot of it is is just plain absurd. Hilarious, if it were not also terrible. The epic is bound up in the banal, the heroic in the vulgar. Wars are started out of folly or oversight, or somebody&#8217;s vanity, or pure mistake. Let me give you an example [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1855&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Life, or history, is a tragicomedy. A lot of it is is just plain absurd. Hilarious, if it were not also terrible. The epic is bound up in the banal, the heroic in the vulgar. Wars are started out of folly or oversight, or somebody&#8217;s vanity, or pure mistake.</p>
<p>Let me give you an example from the era that forms the backdrop for the main characters in <a href="/about-the-book/">my forthcoming book</a>. This is the giant cock-up that led to the Punic Wars, stretching over 118 years, robbing the ancient Mediterranean world of entire generations of its young as the the World Wars of the 20th century once would, and ending in the <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">complete annihilation of Carthage</a>.</p>
<p>To recap: Last time in this series we <a href="/2009/04/01/pyrrhus-meets-rome-the-world-takes-note/">left off with Pyrrhus</a>, the studly <a href="/tag/Hellenism/">Hellenistic</a> king who fought the Romans, usually winning (but hey, those <a href="/2008/09/16/pyrrhic-victories/">Pyrrhic victories</a>) but finally acknowledging that those Romans, so <a href="/2009/03/02/the-view-west-from-alexanders-death-bed/">obscure</a> and backward until now, were quite something. He went home and left Italy to them. For the first time, the Romans were now all the way down in the Italian &#8220;boot&#8221;, looking over at Sicily (see map).</p>
<p>Sicily, remember, was a mostly Greek island whose western parts Carthage, the maritime superpower of the day, considered to be in its sphere of influence.</p>
<p>We have already reviewed how Carthage and Rome were <a href="/2009/03/09/carthage-and-rome-murderous-twins/">twins</a> in some ways, <a href="/2009/03/30/great-friends-for-230-years-carthage-and-rome/">friends</a> in others. But now suddenly, they found themselves staring across the narrow straits of Messina, then called Messana. What would happen next? Did anything at all have to happen next?</p>
<p>No, nothing <em>had</em> to happen. That&#8217;s just what historians pretend 2,000 years later when they need to get tenure. Instead, here is what <em>did</em> happen:</p>
<h2>Meet the Mamertines</h2>
<p>There was this band of hoodlums&#8211;hooligans, gangsters, goons, whatever you want to call them. They were from southern Italy but went to Sicily at some point to look for work. Sort of like the Okies during the Depression. They found jobs in the great Greek city of <a href="/2009/03/22/archimedes-between-carthage-and-rome/">Syracuse</a> for a few years, but then got fired. So they wandered off again.</p>
<p>But on they way back to Italy they stopped at Messana, also a Greek town. The town&#8217;s elders, always good hosts in the Hellenistic way, gave them lodging. The hoodlums said Thank You, waited till everybody was asleep, got up and cut their hosts&#8217; throats. Then they took their women. Then they declared that Messana was now theirs.</p>
<p>For good measure, they called themselves Mamertines, or &#8220;sons of Mars&#8221;. Looks better in the history books.</p>
<p>They kept being hoodlums, ransacking the towns in their neigborhood, until the Syracusans heard about this and sent an army. Yikes, the Mamertines thought. We better call for help.</p>
<p>So they contacted the Carthaginians in the west of Sicily and invited them over, just to show some force and scare the Syracusans off. The Carthaginians came, and the Syracusans thought it better not to risk a war over, well, hoodlums. (They knew whom they had recently fired, after all.)</p>
<p>Except now the Mamertines thought &#8216;Yikes, those Carthaginians are a bit scary too, aren&#8217;t they?&#8217;</p>
<p>So&#8211;and I think you see where this is going&#8211;they contacted the (wait for it) Romans, who were, after all, just a stone&#8217;s throw across the straits, in Rhegium (also Greek), today&#8217;s Reggio.</p>
<p>Sure, the Romans said. Why don&#8217;t we hop over and strut around a bit. We kicked out Pyrrhus, after all.</p>
<p>The Carthaginian commander thought it best not to risk a full-fledged war over, well, hoodlums, and left. But this was picked up by the Carthaginian equivalent of Fox News and the superpower decided that it had been humiliated. It crucified the general. (Literally, by the way.) Then Carthage sent a force to drive the Romans back across the straits.</p>
<p>And this, in 264 BCE, is how it started! The First Punic War would last 23 years. It would see some of the greatest sea battles of all time, <em>including</em> our own. It would be followed by the Second Punic War&#8211;Hannibal&#8217;s war&#8211;which was even bloodier. And then by the Third Punic War, which was genocide.</p>
<p>And the Mamertines, you ask?</p>
<p>Good question. Somehow they vanished from history the moment they entered it. We have no idea where they went or what became of them. The Romans, the Carthaginians, the Sicilians&#8211;nobody heard about them again or cared to inquire. After all, they had just been a bunch of hoodlums, passing through.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me now start to unravel some of the mysteries I have been setting up in my recent thread about <a href="/category/Carthage/">Carthage</a>, <a href="/category/Rome/">Rome</a> and <a href="/tag/Hellenism/">Hellenism</a>&#8211;the historical backdrop for the main plot in <a href="/about-the-book/">my coming book</a>.</p>
<p>The first mystery, in brief, is this: Why did two powers, which had been <a href="/2009/03/09/carthage-and-rome-murderous-twins/">very alike</a> and <a href="/2009/03/30/great-friends-for-230-years-carthage-and-rome/">on friendly terms</a> for centuries, start fighting some of the most brutal wars in all of history, ending in one of them (Rome) <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">completely erasing</a> the other (Carthage)?</p>
<p>In this post, let&#8217;s first look at how Rome even <em>came to the attention</em> of the Mediterranean world as a whole. Recall that Rome had been an obscure and small land power in central Italy of which <a href="/2009/03/02/the-view-west-from-alexanders-death-bed/">Alexander had apparently never even heard</a>!</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s because the Romans had been busy for several centuries fighting their immediate neighbors in Italy. As they subdued them piecemeal, these tribes&#8211;such as the Samnites and Etruscans&#8211;essentially disappeared from history. But with each victory, the Romans got closer to the tip, or &#8220;boot&#8221;, of southern Italy. And, this being the Hellenistic era, this brought the Romans into contact at last with the Greek world. The first great city of the Greeks in Italy to take offense was Tarentum (modern Taranto).</p>
<p><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gulf_of_Taranto_map.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1787" title="545px-gulf_of_taranto_map" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/545px-gulf_of_taranto_map.png?w=272&#038;h=300" alt="545px-gulf_of_taranto_map" width="272" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>As it happened, there was at this time a very colorful and strapping young king just across the Adriatic in today&#8217;s Albania, which at that time was a Hellenistic kingdom called Epirus. His name was Pyrrhus. He is one of my favorite characters in ancient history (<a href="/2008/09/16/pyrrhic-victories/">as I told you when I talked about Pyrrhic victories)</a>.</p>
<p>Pyrrhus had a bit of a complex. The Epirotes, like the Macedonians next door, were <em>sort of, just barely</em>, Greek. Which is to say that the &#8220;real&#8221; Greeks couldn&#8217;t quite make up their minds whether the Epirotes were really barbarians masquerading as Greeks. So Pyrrhus was forever overcompensating.</p>
<p>He claimed that he descended from <a href="/2009/02/17/homeric-storytelling-1-wrath/">Achilles</a>, the greatest Greek hero ever. And he wanted to be as grand as Alexander, the Macedonian who had made himself the lord of all Greeks and conquered their old enemies. So Pyrrhus was constantly getting into wars here and there to prove his mettle.</p>
<p>His big break, or so he thought, came in 281 BCE, as Tarentum invited him to come over to help fight off some barbarians (the Romans). Pyrrhus, the defender of the Greeks! Pyrrhus, the descendant of Achilles fighting Trojan War 2.o against the <a href="/2009/02/26/lavinia-and-aeneas/">descendants of Troy</a>! He was thrilled. He packed his bags and swords, along with 20 <a href="/2008/08/14/about-hannibals-elephants/">war elephants</a> and a huge, splendid army of Greek hoplites. And off he was to Italy.</p>
<p><a href="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/200px-pyrrhus.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-371" title="Pyrrhus of Epirus" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/200px-pyrrhus.jpg" alt="Call me Achilles" /></a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s pause briefly to grasp what kind of man Pyrrhus was. Here is <a href="/2008/11/03/the-father-of-biography/">Plutarch</a>, <a href="http://classics.mit.edu/Plutarch/pyrrhus.html" target="_blank">describing</a> a moment when Pyrrhus was wounded in the head once and his enemies were closing in for the kill:</p>
<blockquote><p>one of them advancing a good way before the rest, large of body and in bright armour, with an haughty voice challenged him to come forth if he were alive. Pyrrhus, in great anger, broke away violently from his guards, and, in his fury, besmeared with blood, terrible to look upon, made his way through his own men, and struck the barbarian on the head with his sword such a blow, as with the strength of his arm, and the excellent temper of the weapon, passed downward so far that his body being cut asunder fell in two pieces.</p></blockquote>
<p>Pyrrhus was more than brawny and brave; he was also a great tactician and general, perhaps the best of his time. So now, for the first time ever, Roman legionaries clashed with the famous phalanxes of Greek hoplites.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greek_Phalanx.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1789" title="greek_phalanx" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/greek_phalanx.jpg?w=300&#038;h=150" alt="greek_phalanx" width="300" height="150" /></a></p>
<p>This picture actually does not do it justice. The hoplites in the phalanx stayed in tight formation, each holding his long spear so that the phalanx as a whole advanced as though it were a deadly porcupine with its quills pointing forward.</p>
<p>The Romans gave way. Then Pyrrhus&#8217; elephants did the rest. And so Pyrrhus won victories, but they were &#8220;Pyrrhic&#8221;&#8211;which is to say that they did not help him win the war and cost him so much in lives that he himself said that he could not afford another.</p>
<h2>Roman and Greek: Clash of Civilizations</h2>
<p>But there was more going on here than battles. This was the first time that these two cultures actually met <em>en masse</em>. And the Greeks did not know what to make of these Romans.</p>
<p>In the Greek (Hellenistic) world, war was a higher form of sport and art. One or two victories on the battlefield, and the gentlemanly thing to do was to make a treaty, call it quits and go to the gymnasium to get oiled. So Pyrrhus was waiting for the Romans to cry Uncle.</p>
<p>But they didn&#8217;t. And the Greeks just did not understand. Why did the Romans just keep coming, and coming and coming, when they were dying in such large numbers? Who, or <em>what</em>, were these people?</p>
<p>There were more surprises. In the Greek world, you opened diplomacy with a gift or two, and perhaps the equivalent of a discreet brown envelope to the right persons. So Pyrrhus sent an envoy to talk to the Romans. But when he offered his gifts to the Roman senators, they were so shocked at the implication of venality that all diplomacy ended abruptly.</p>
<p>Bizarre! Even stranger, the Romans then saved Pyrrhus&#8217; life. The king&#8217;s own doctor was a traitor and offered the Romans to poison Pyrrhus. The Romans, far from accepting the offer, promptly informed Pyrrhus, who had his doctor taken care of. There was nobility in these barbarians, he thought!</p>
<p>Long story short, Pyrrhus, after some distractions in Sicily, eventually left Italy and went home to Epirus, to keep looking for adventures and glory there.</p>
<p>Rome had survived its first encounter with the Greeks unbeaten and was now master of all Italy. All over the Mediterranean, people sat up and held their breath. Wow. A new power, living by exotic values and playing by incomprehensible rules, had arrived on the scene.</p>
<p>Even Rome&#8217;s old friends in Carthage suddenly realized that these Romans were now awfully close to Sicily, and rather more menacing than Carthage had ever thought. Whatever Rome was now, it was certainly no longer obscure.<br />
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		<title>Great friends for 230 years: Carthage and Rome</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Are you puzzled by Carthage and Rome? You should be, if you&#8217;re learning about them through my thread on the historical backdrop behind the main story and main characters in <a href="/about-the-book/">my forthcoming book</a>. So far, I&#8217;ve told you just enough to raise lots of questions.</p>
<p>Recap: There we are, in the third century BCE in the Mediterranean: the place is essentially <a href="/tag/Hellenism/">a Greek (&#8220;Hellenistic&#8221;) pond</a>, with two other powers&#8211;one mighty, seafaring and rich (Carthage); the other <a href="/2009/03/02/the-view-west-from-alexanders-death-bed/">obscure</a>, land-bound and provincial (Rome)&#8211;waving at each other from opposite shores. But one century later, the obscure upstart somehow <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">completely erases</a> the mighty and rich superpower, thereby <a href="/2009/03/06/our-roman-world-2009/#comment-1198">changing our world forever</a>.</p>
<p>How and why did this come about?</p>
<p>We will get there, but first, let&#8217;s take another look at Carthage and Rome before war broke out between them. Not only were these two city-states <a href="/2009/03/09/carthage-and-rome-murderous-twins/">remarkably alike</a>; they were also &#8230; <em>friends</em>!</p>
<p>Not cuddly friends, perhaps, but certainly cordial enough to have <em>four</em> treaties of friendship between 509 BCE and 279 BCE. The terms changed, but the essence stayed the same:</p>
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<li>You play nice over there, and don&#8217;t come armed over here, although if a storm were to blow your ships to our side, we&#8217;ll help you out so that you can be on your way.</li>
<li>In return, we will play nice over here, and not come over there, unless a storm were to blow our ships to your side, in which case we&#8217;ll be on our way as soon as you&#8217;ll help us along.</li>
<li>Oh, and we both realize that a lot of these places between us are actually Greek, so let&#8217;s give them some respect too.</li>
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<p>You see this summarized in the map above. The Carthaginian sphere of influence is light green; the Roman light red; the Greek light brown. Notice the three main centers of Greek civilization in this (western) part of the Mediterranean, which were Tarentum (today&#8217;s Taranto, in Italy); Syracuse (also Italian today, of course) and Massilia (today&#8217;s Marseilles, in France).</p>
<p>This is still a largely happy and peaceful picture. But along came a swash-buckling young lad&#8211;no, not Hannibal yet&#8211;who caused trouble. He was Greek, his name was Pyrrhus, and you&#8217;ve heard and used his name in its adjectival form many times. To be continued.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[Above you see a 78-year-old Greek man drawing mathematical diagrams into the sand, a split second before a Roman soldier stabbed him to death in a war against Carthage. The old man&#8217;s name, of course, is Archimedes, and when the Romans ran toward him he apparently said, simply, &#8220;Don&#8217;t disturb my circles.&#8221; I have been [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1688&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Above you see a 78-year-old Greek man drawing mathematical diagrams into the sand, a split second before a Roman soldier stabbed him to death in a war against Carthage. The old man&#8217;s name, of course, is Archimedes, and when the Romans ran toward him he apparently said, simply, &#8220;Don&#8217;t disturb my circles.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have been thinking about how to illustrate for you, in one terse but punchy anecdote, the essence of the <a href="/tag/Hellenism/">Hellenistic</a> era that I wrote about <a href="/2009/03/21/it-was-all-greek-to-them-no-literally/">in the previous post</a>. And this is it.</p>
<p>Remember: This was an era when 1) two mighty powers, Carthage and Rome, clashed and <a href="/2009/03/06/our-roman-world-2009/#comment-1198">changed our world forever</a> and 2) the <em>entire</em> known world, including Carthage and Rome, was simultaneously taking its cultural, linguistic, artistic, scientific and aesthetic cues from the Greeks. (Oh, and it was the era that forms the backdrop to the main story in <a href="/about-the-book/">my forthcoming book</a>, a book that is really about the ups and downs in <em>your</em> life.)</p>
<p>But why <em>this</em> moment, the stabbing of Archimedes?</p>
<p>Because it was a microcosm of the larger situation. Consider:</p>
<ul>
<li>Archimedes was stabbed in 212 BCE, just as Hannibal, the Carthaginian commander who is my main character, was in Italy, killing Romans (he killed about one quarter of all free Latin men at the time!).</li>
<li>The Romans, who were losing, were worried that Sicily, the ethnically Greek island between Italy and Carthage which they had wrested from Carthaginian control in a previous war might go over to Carthage again, thus giving Hannibal a base for supplies and reinforcement and sealing their likely fate: extinction.</li>
<li>So the Romans, while fighting Hannibal in Italy itself, attacked and laid siege to the Greek city of Syracuse on Sicily, once a Roman ally but now flirting with Carthage.</li>
<li>But Syracuse, a proud and ancient <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">Spartan</span> <a href="/2009/03/22/archimedes-between-carthage-and-rome/#comment-3786">Corinthian</a> colony, was a more refined&#8211;ie, <em>Hellenistic</em>&#8211;culture than either Rome or Carthage. It was Greek, rich, old, full of art and learning. And it was the home of Archimedes!</li>
<li>Archimedes, using Hellenistic values of science and thought (as opposed to brute Roman force) helped his city to keep the Romans at bay for two years.</li>
<li>He figured out a way to use mirrors to focus the sun&#8217;s rays onto the Roman ships until they burnt&#8211;the Hellenistic form of Star Wars. He designed cranes that, using the principle of leverage, lifted the Roman ships out of the water and let them crash down.</li>
<li>Eventually, the Romans got into the city and had their Roman way with it. But the swash-buckling Roman commander, Marcellus, gave orders to save the great man, Archimedes&#8211;a gesture that was itself a sign of the Hellenistic Zeitgeist. Alas, the young legionaries did not recognize Archimedes and killed him.</li>
<li>And so Sicily stayed Roman and did not become a base to resupply Hannibal in Italy. Hannibal would later kill Marcellus in Italy, and things would take their course&#8230;</li>
</ul>
<p>So there you have it: the three civilizations&#8211;Greek, Roman and Carthaginian&#8211;meeting in one spot at one time. But there is another reason to choose Archimedes.</p>
<p>Archimedes perfectly epitomized his Hellenistic time and his Greek culture. He was curious, full of <a href="/2009/03/07/in-praise-of-wonderment/">wonderment</a>, inquiring into everything. As he was taking a bath one day, he noticed how his leg, moving in and out, displaced the water, which gave him the idea for measuring the volume and density of <em>any</em> object. He was so excited that he ran out into the streets, stark naked and dripping, screaming what might be the the best and ultimate slogan for Hellenism itself:</p>
<blockquote><p>Eureka!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>It was all Greek to them. No, literally.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I left off in my thread on the general historical backdrop to the main story in my forthcoming book with a nod to Hellenism. That is because my main characters, Hannibal (Carthage) and Scipio (Rome), clashed, with consequences for us today, during the third century BCE, the height of the so-called Hellenistic era. This may [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1678&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>I <a href="/2009/03/14/backdrop-to-the-story-hellenism/">left off </a>in my thread on the general historical backdrop to the main story in <a href="/about-the-book/">my forthcoming book</a> with a nod to <a href="/tag/Hellenism/">Hellenism</a>. That is because my main characters, Hannibal (Carthage) and Scipio (Rome), clashed, <a href="/2009/03/06/our-roman-world-2009/#comment-1198">with consequences for us today</a>, during the third century BCE, the height of the so-called Hellenistic era.</p>
<p>This may sound weird. Hellenism is named after <em>Hellas</em>, Greece, but what we know about this epic clash is that it happened between the two superpowers of the day, Rome and Carthage. What does Greece have to do with this?</p>
<p>This is what I want to explain, briefly and simply, in this post.</p>
<p>&#8220;Greece&#8221; was never, in antiquity, a country. Even Homer, <a href="/2009/02/17/homeric-storytelling-1-wrath/">writing about the Trojan War</a> that was the mythological foundation for all Greeks, never once used the word <em>Greeks</em>! (Instead, he called the Greeks Argives, Achaeans, Aetolians, and so on.) During the <em>Classical</em> era, the Greeks had independent city states (Athens, Sparta, Thebes etc) that constantly fought against, or allied with, one another.</p>
<p>But although they never thought of themselves as a country, they always thought of themselves as a civilization. The definition of Greekness was simple: if you were allowed to send competitors to the Olmpic Games, you were Greek. And who was allowed? Broadly, those who spoke Greek. All other languages sounded to the Greeks like &#8220;bar bar bar bar&#8221;, hence <em>barbarian</em>.</p>
<p>Then, in the fourth century BCE, something big happened: While the Greek cities kept fighting each other about rather petty things, as usual, a new power rose to the north. This was Macedonia. Whether the Macedonians were Greek was at first controversial, but might made right, and Philip, then his son Alexander, became not only Macedonian but also Greek.</p>
<p>Alexander, <a href="/2008/11/01/more-on-parents-and-success/">completing the dream his father had dreamt</a> when he was murdered, then swept ferociously across <a href="/2009/01/11/east-vs-west-where-it-started/">the Hellespont</a> to the east, reversing the direction of the earlier Persian invasions, and conquering most of the known world. In the process he brought Greek language, culture, philsophy, theater, art and architecture to the entire &#8220;Middle East&#8221;. His name lives on in many garbled city names, such as Kandahar.</p>
<p>Then <a href="/2009/03/02/the-view-west-from-alexanders-death-bed/">Alexander died</a>, prematurely. His generals carved up his huge empire and for the next couple of centuries, huge and powerful kingdoms with Greek aristocracies ruled the area. The two biggest were the Seleucid and the Ptolemaic empires. The last Greco-Macedonian queen was, of course, <a href="/tag/cleopatra/">Cleopatra</a> (who happens to be another of the characters in my book.)</p>
<p>What did this mean? It meant that in the whole Mediterranean and &#8220;Middle East&#8221;, there was one cosmopolitan, urban culture, which was Greek&#8211;ie, Hellenistic. There were lots and lots of other peoples&#8211;Phoenicians, Romans, Gauls, Numidians, Illyrians etc&#8211;who abutted on this Greek pond from all sides, and they each had their own culture and language. But the <em>haute couture</em>, the <em>lingua franca</em>, the aesthetic style, the entire outlook and sensibility of the era&#8211;all this was Greek.</p>
<p>There are no perfect parallels in history for this astonishing cultural dominance. The reach of Han Chinese culture during the Tang Dynasty and &#8220;Anglo-Saxon&#8221; culture today (from English-as-a-second-language to Hollywood films) are the two that seem to come closest.</p>
<p>So there. Hannibal spoke Punic, Scipio spoke Latin, but both of course also spoke Greek. Scipio, in fact, loved Greek culture so much that his political enemy, <a href="/2009/01/16/beware-the-catos-in-your-life/">Cato the Elder, a sort of Roman Joe McCarthy</a>, even tried to spin a scandal out of it.</p>
<p>It was a culturally refined and complex era. A fascinating era.<br />
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		<title>Backdrop to the story: Hellenism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve always been a fan of Hellenistic art, such as this sculpture of a Dying Gaul (a Roman copy of the original Greek sculpture, made during Hannibal&#8217;s lifetime). Compare the Gaul above to the sculpture below, which shows either Poseidon or Zeus and was made about two centuries earlier, during the Classical era. Huge difference, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1603&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve always been a fan of <em>Hellenistic</em> art, such as this sculpture of a <em>Dying Gaul</em> (a Roman copy of the original Greek sculpture, made during Hannibal&#8217;s lifetime). Compare the <em>Gaul </em>above to the sculpture below, which shows either Poseidon or Zeus and was made about two centuries earlier, during the <em>Classical</em> era.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Netuno19b.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1604" title="469px-netuno19b" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/469px-netuno19b.jpg?w=234&#038;h=300" alt="469px-netuno19b" width="234" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>Huge difference, wouldn&#8217;t you say?</p>
<p>In the Classical era, art (which, as we all know, imitates life) was about depicting heroism in a stylized, idealized and static way. Even if the god is about to throw a thunderbolt, he seems frozen in time. He does not look like an individual but like a type.</p>
<p>In the Hellenistic era, by contrast, art is about individualized, internal, psychological and much more complex depictions of heroism. The <em>Gaul</em> looks ethnically like a Celt; he is struggling against death with as much turmoil on the inside as on the outside; he looks like he is actually moving on his shield. This is one man, unique, during the moment of his life&#8217;s ultimate drama.</p>
<p>Why am I talking about this?</p>
<p>Because the <em>Dying Gaul</em> is a great visual clue about the historical era in which the plot of the main characters in <a href="/about-the-book/">my forthcoming book</a> unfolds. (As always, please remember that the plot and the characters are just the frame for a story that is about <em>us today</em>, about <em>success and failure in our lives</em>!) Hannibal and Scipio encountered each other during this, the <em>Hellenistic</em>, era.</p>
<p>In a coming post, let me try to begin to unravel the mystery I set up in recent posts: namely, how was it possible that Rome, an obscure Italian town that most people <a href="/2009/03/02/the-view-west-from-alexanders-death-bed/">had never heard of</a>, came to replace (and <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">erase</a>) Carthage, the Mediterranean superpower, making <a href="/2009/03/06/our-roman-world-2009/#comment-1198">our own world forever Roman</a>? Understanding these events starts, ironically, with understanding Hellenism, ie the Greeks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<title>Carthage and Rome: murderous twins</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I left off in this thread on the historical background of the main characters in my forthcoming book by asking you to savor a certain sense of mystery: At the beginning of the so-called Hellenistic era (ie, the death of Alexander), Carthage was a superpower and Rome all but unknown. 177 years later, Rome was [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1546&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_1548" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gu%C3%A9rin_%C3%89n%C3%A9e_racontant_%C3%A0_Didon_les_malheurs_de_la_ville_de_Troie_Louvre_5184.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1548" title="800px-guerin_enee_racontant_a_didon_les_malheurs_de_la_ville_de_troie_louvre_5184" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/800px-guerin_enee_racontant_a_didon_les_malheurs_de_la_ville_de_troie_louvre_5184.jpg?w=300&#038;h=223" alt="Hey Dido, say we EACH had a city...." width="300" height="223" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Hey Dido, say we EACH had a city....</p></div>
<p>I left off in this thread on the historical background of the main characters in <a href="/about-the-book/">my forthcoming book</a> by asking you to savor a certain sense of mystery:</p>
<p>At the beginning of the so-called Hellenistic era (ie, <a href="/2009/03/02/the-view-west-from-alexanders-death-bed/">the death of Alexander</a>), Carthage was a superpower and Rome all but unknown. 177 years later, Rome was the superpower, and <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">Carthage was completely razed</a>. And <a href="/2009/03/06/our-roman-world-2009/#comment-1198">our world would forever after be Roman</a>. What happened in those 177 years?</p>
<p>Before I go on, please, remember that my book will <em>not</em> be a history lesson; it is a <em>story </em>of characters, from Hannibal and Scipio to modern people you know, who illustrate a theme that you, I hope, will recognize in your own life.</p>
<p>That said, in these posts I&#8217;m amusing myself with a bit of history. And so back to the mystery. It actually gets <em>more</em> mysterious for a while, because Carthage and Rome were &#8230; friends.</p>
<p>That might be overstating things, but they were a) extremely alike in some ways and b) entirely tolerant of each other for many centuries.</p>
<p>If you believe Roman legends, the two cities were founded almost at the same time&#8211;Carthage in 814 BCE by the beautiful and wily queen Dido, and Rome a few generations later by the descendants of <a href="/2009/02/26/lavinia-and-aeneas/">Aeneas</a>, a Trojan survivor and Dido&#8217;s erstwhile lover. Dido and Aeneas are pictured together above. (The lewd version is <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EneeDidon.jpg" target="_blank">here</a>.)</p>
<p>Rome and Carthage then evolved almost as twins: two polytheistic city-states that shook off tyrants and became proud republics, with popular assemblies, councils of elders, and two annually-elected presidents&#8211;the Romans called them <em>consuls</em>, the Carthaginians <em>suffetes</em>.</p>
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<p>To the extent that they were also <em>different</em>, this actually <em>helped</em> them to get along. Rome was agrarian, provincial and essentially land-locked in central Italy. It had no navy at all! When it had to fight, it drafted all male citizens. Carthage, by contrast, was maritime, controlled a vast sea empire and made profits from trading. When it had to fight, it hired mercenaries to do the fighting on the citizens&#8217; behalf.</p>
<p>So for centuries the Romans worried about their neighbors in Italy, and the Carthaginians about their profits and sea routes, and both sides were happy. They had treaties of friendship. There seemed to be no problem.</p>
<p>To be continued.<br />
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		<title>Our Roman world, 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#8217;s that peeking through the urban thicket of New York? Why, the New York Stock Exchange, where your savings are currently being lost. And what about that patriotic-looking edifice on the right? That&#8217;s the US Treasury, where your savings are also currently being lost. But I digress. What&#8217;s my point? By now I shouldn&#8217;t even [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1506&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>What&#8217;s that peeking through the urban thicket of New York? Why, the New York Stock Exchange, where your savings are currently being lost. And what about that patriotic-looking edifice on the right? That&#8217;s the US Treasury, where your savings are also currently being lost. But I digress. What&#8217;s my point?</p>
<p>By now I shouldn&#8217;t even have to make it explicit. It is that those buildings, like thousands of libraries and state capitols and what not, are explicitly and intentionally built to look &#8230; <em>Roman!</em></p>
<p>And what would America look like if Hannibal, ie Carthage, had won? Exactly. We have no idea. We don&#8217;t know what Carthaginian columns and buildings looked like because the Romans were too thorough in wiping it off the map.</p>
<p>And what do we speak? English, a Germanic tongue, admittedly, but one that got half its vocabulary from Norman French, an offshoot of Latin. To our north and south in this hemisphere, they speak French, Spanish and Portuguese, other offshoots of Latin.</p>
<p>And what would the Americas <em>sound</em> like if Hannibal had won? Exactly. We have no idea. Perhaps remotely like Hebrew or Arabic, since <a href="/2008/08/03/semitic-hannibal/">Punic was a Semitic language</a>, but we can&#8217;t say because it&#8217;s been dead so long.</p>
<p>We could go on and on. We have <em>Senators</em> because <a href="/2008/10/21/america-as-the-new-rome-polybius-and-us/">our founding fathers wanted to model themselves after the Rome that Polybius described</a>, the one that survived and overcame Hannibal. Toga parties, Caesar&#8217;s Palace, &#8230;. Please don&#8217;t expect me to go there.</p>
<p>The point of all this, of course, is to instill in you a retroactive sense of <em>wonderment</em> about the mysterious events between, roughly, the <a href="/2009/03/02/the-view-west-from-alexanders-death-bed/">death of Alexander</a> and the Roman <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">double-sack of Carthage and Corinth</a>. Recall that Alexander had never heard of Rome but had Carthage in his sights, because <em>it </em>was the superpower of its region. Recall that, 177 years later, those Romans of whom he had not heard razed Carthage and Corinth to the ground and began to turn the world into what we know today.</p>
<p>Those epic and mysterious events that explain the mystery are the <em>backdrop</em>&#8211;the context or scene&#8211;for the astonishing <em>individual</em> and <em>human</em> stories of the main characters in <a href="/about-the-book/">my book</a>, who proved with their own lives that <a href="/2008/11/10/kiplings-if/">triumph and disaster are impostors</a>.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the following description about? &#8230; they threw timbers from one [house] to another over the narrow passageways, and crossed as on bridges. While war was raging in this way on the roofs, another fight was going on among those who met each other in the streets below. All places were filled with groans, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1484&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>&#8230; they threw timbers from one [house] to another over the narrow passageways, and crossed as on bridges. While war was raging in this way on the roofs, another fight was going on among those who met each other in the streets below. All places were filled with groans, shrieks, shouts, and every kind of agony. Some were stabbed, others were hurled alive from the roofs to the pavement &#8230; No one dared to set fire to the houses on account of those who were still on the roofs, until [the commander showed up]. Then he set fire to the three streets all together, and gave orders to keep the passageways clear of burning material so that the army might move back and forth freely.</p>
<p>Then came new scenes of horror. As the fire spread and carried everything down, the soldiers did not wait to destroy the buildings little by little, but all in a heap. So the crashing grew louder, and many corpses fell with the stones into the midst. Others were seen still living, especially old men, women, and young children who had hidden in the inmost nooks of the houses, some of them wounded, some more or less burned, and uttering piteous cries. Still others, thrust out and falling from such a height with the stones, timbers, and fire, were torn asunder in all shapes of horror, crushed and mangled.</p>
<p>Nor was this the end of their miseries, for the street cleaners, who were removing the rubbish with axes, mattocks, and forks, and making the roads passable, tossed with these instruments the dead and the living together into holes in the ground, dragging them along like sticks and stones and turning them over with their iron tools. Trenches were filled with men. Some who were thrown in head foremost, with their legs sticking out of the ground, writhed a long time. Others fell with their feet downward and their heads above ground. [Army transports] ran over them, crushing their faces and skulls, not purposely on the part of the riders, but in their headlong haste. &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>The Americans taking Fallujah in 2003? Street fighting in World War II? Nope. It&#8217;s the Romans wiping Carthage off the map, as described by <a href="http://www.livius.org/ap-ark/appian/appian_punic_26.html#%A7128" target="_blank">Appian here</a>.</p>
<p>The year was 146 BCE, and <em>in that same year </em>the Romans also destroyed Corinth in Greece. One city gone in the west, one in the east. A very Roman gesture.</p>
<p>In the <a href="/2009/03/02/the-view-west-from-alexanders-death-bed/">previous post in this thread</a>, I talked about Alexander looking west from his deathbed in 323 BCE and seeing a mighty city, Carthage, but <em>not</em> seeing a city called Rome, because there was nothing much to see yet. In this scene, 177 years later, that nation of which Alexander had not heard, Rome, was laying waste and subjugating the two great Mediterranean civilizations that Alexander <em>had</em> known, the Carthaginian-Punic and his own, the Greek.</p>
<p>Clearly, a lot had happened in those intervening years. Events that we today see <em>all around us</em>&#8211;by what we see, speak and think, and by what we do <em>not</em> see, speak and think. I will explain that in the next post.</p>
<p>And just as a reminder: The story of what happened between those dates&#8211;Alexander&#8217;s death and Rome&#8217;s domination of west and east&#8211;has, of course, <em>everything</em> to do with the main characters in <a href="/about-the-book/">my book</a>: Hannibal, Fabius and Scipio.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[One month before his 33rd birthday, on June 11th, 323 BCE, Alexander died in a sumptuous palace in Babylon, in today&#8217;s Iraq. He had been drinking with his friends and might have been poisoned. Or he might have had malaria, or typhoid fever, or any number of other ailments. In twelve short years&#8211;during his twenties [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1454&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>One month before his 33rd birthday, on June 11th, 323 BCE, Alexander died in a sumptuous palace in Babylon, in today&#8217;s Iraq. He had been drinking with his friends and might have been poisoned. Or he might have had malaria, or typhoid fever, or any number of other ailments.</p>
<p>In twelve short years&#8211;during his <em>twenties (</em>what were <em>you</em> doing in your twenties?)&#8211;this young man had completely changed the world. Indeed, you might say that he had unified the world for possibly the first and only time. (I&#8217;m talking about the world known to him). <a href="/2009/01/11/east-vs-west-where-it-started/">Recall</a> that the Greeks had had, for at least a century and a half, a keen sense of <em>East</em> (alien, soft, depraved) and <em>West</em> (Greek, civilized), with assorted barbarians living on the periphery. Alexander brought East and West and its major civilizations together into one realm, with a remarkably cosmopolitan vision of governing by including rather than oppressing the non-Greeks.</p>
<p>But that is not the subject of today&#8217;s post. Instead, I want to choose June 11th, 323 BCE as the date with which to begin a new thread on <em>The Hannibal Blog</em>: In the next series of posts I want to &#8220;set the scene&#8221;, the historical context, for the main plot and main characters in my forthcoming <a href="/about-the-book/">book</a>.</p>
<h3>What did Alexander <em>not</em> see to his west when he died?</h3>
<p>This is the question of today&#8217;s post. The answer <em>should</em> be surprising. If it is not, I will help you to be surprised in the coming posts.</p>
<p>First, a map of what <em>we</em> think he should have seen (click to enlarge):</p>
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<p>What Alexander saw was <strong>Carthage</strong>. This man, who was said to have cried once when he thought he had run out of countries to conquer, was <a href="http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexander16.html" target="_blank">apparently</a> planning to conquer the entire western Mediterranean when death intervened, and the western Mediterranean, as far as Alexander knew, was a pond with two main cultures: 1) His own (Hellenistic) and 2) the Carthaginian-Punic one. So he was planning to take on Carthage, that mighty and wealthy port on the tip of northern Africa, <a href="/2008/10/31/hannibals-y-chromosome/">settled by Phoenicians</a> whose mother country (in today&#8217;s Lebanon) already belonged to Alexander&#8217;s empire. Once he had Carthage, Alexander would truly be able to say that ruled the whole world.</p>
<p>And here is what he did <em>not</em> see: <strong>Rome</strong>! Alexander had apparently never even heard of the place. Rome may have been among a few Italian towns that sent representatives to his court, but he personally seems never to have taken note of the place. And why should he have? It was a sleepy town in the middle of Italy. Clearly not of any consequence. More in <a href="/2009/03/04/a-tale-of-two-cities-disappearing/">the next post</a>.</p>
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		<title>Lavinia and Aeneas</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#8217;ve heard of Dido and Aeneas (and Purcell, Virgil and all that). Well, a well-known author named Ursula LeGuin decided to pick one of the most obscure but potentially interesting characters of the whole Aeneid and give you Lavinia and Aeneas. The novel is called Lavinia, and I just finished it. The book came to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1424&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>You&#8217;ve heard of <em>Dido</em> and Aeneas (and Purcell, Virgil and all that). Well, a well-known author named <a href="http://www.ursulakleguin.com/UKL_info.html" target="_blank">Ursula LeGuin</a> decided to pick one of the most obscure but potentially interesting characters of the whole Aeneid and give you <em>Lavinia</em> and Aeneas. The novel is called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Lavinia-Ursula-K-Guin/dp/0151014248" target="_blank"><em>Lavinia</em></a>, and I just finished it.</p>
<p>The book came to my attention through my wife. Her book club, having heard that NPR considers the book one of last year&#8217;s best, decided to read it. So my wife read it. &#8220;You would get more out of this,&#8221; she kept saying to me, since there was all this, you know, ancient and Roman stuff in it. I was intrigued.</p>
<p>But when she finished it she and her book club weren&#8217;t so convinced. My wife&#8217;s verdict: &#8220;Sloooow start, but she made the Aeneid accessible to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I picked it up. And this came to mind:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Always avoid cliché.</p></blockquote>
<p>So I remember Alfred Hitchcock saying in some interview I once saw. <em>The Hannibal Blog</em> has of late been exploring what makes good <a href="/tag/story-telling/">storytelling</a> good. But I haven&#8217;t said much about the enemies of good stories. I think cliché is the most dangerous of them.</p>
<p>And this is the dilemma of <em>Lavinia</em>: Fantastic conceit for a novel! Really. Exactly the sort of idea that I have time for; indeed not that far away conceptually from the <a href="/about-me/">book idea</a> that I myself had. But what a shame about the corny bits.</p>
<p>Here is the genius of the conceit: Aeneas survives the sack of Troy and escapes with his father and son (but not his wife, who perishes in Troy) to wander the Mediterranean. He has a torrid affair with Dido, the wily queen of Carthage, but leaves her and she burns herself (presaging, I might add, what Scipio&#8217;s&#8211;and Aeneas&#8217;&#8211;heir will one day do to all of Carthage). Aeneas ends up in Italy, Latium, where his destiny is to found a people, later to become Rome. But it&#8217;s not easy. He has to make alliances and fight local wars first. Enter Lavinia. She becomes his second wife (after Creusa in Troy), with whom he will sire the Roman race.</p>
<p><a href="http://classics.mit.edu/Virgil/aeneid.11.xi.html" target="_blank">Virgil</a> only mentions her in a line or two. So does <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0026;query=chapter%3D%232;layout=;loc=1.1" target="_blank">Livy</a>. And yet she seems to be so important. A Rutulian king named Turnus had the hots for her and felt upstaged when Aeneas swooped in, and <em>that</em>&#8211;ie, she&#8211;is what set off the bloody wars. (Shades of Helen?) Oh, and Lavinia is implicitly the mother of the Roman race.</p>
<p>So LeGuin bravely sets out to make Lavinia come alive. And she succeeds in part, but only after page 100 or so. For the first 100 pages LeGuin colors in this woman about whom we know nothing by making her the eternal damsel in distress, slightly hippie, slightly dreamy, chaste but yearning, right out of a B movie. Everything about this Lavinia is a cliché.</p>
<p>Once Aeneas arrives on the scene and we finally have some mythological material to work with (Virgil&#8217;s), it gets good. But what gets good is, in effect, the last part of the old Aeneid.</p>
<p>More accessible, yes, as my wife said. In fact, she recommends the book, and so do I, by a hair.</p>
<p>Still, the last word that wants to roll of the tongue of the reviewer is the one that is so devilishly hard for the storyteller to avoid, the one that no storyteller wants to hear said: <em>cliché</em>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I&#8217;m on the road again. But I&#8217;ll try to keep posting. In particular, I&#8217;m trying to think of ways to get back on message, the main &#8220;message&#8221; being the book that I&#8217;ve just delivered to my editor at Riverhead. You recall that my dilemma is the following: I&#8217;m not ready yet to start giving [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1417&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;m on the road again. But I&#8217;ll try to keep posting. In particular, I&#8217;m trying to think of ways to get back on message, the main &#8220;message&#8221; being <a href="/about-the-book/">the book</a> that I&#8217;ve just delivered to my editor at <a href="http://us.penguingroup.com/static/pages/riverhead/index.html" target="_blank">Riverhead</a>.</p>
<p>You recall that my dilemma is the following: I&#8217;m not ready yet to start giving away parts of the book as such. (I don&#8217;t have a publication date yet and want to start doing that closer to the time.) But I love the story and topic so much that I started an entire blog with the intention of discussing it, not just <em>ahead of</em> but forever <em>after</em> the book launch.</p>
<p>So maybe I&#8217;ll start by setting the scene, in a more cerebral and less narrative way, for the main plot and the main characters. The main plot, you recall, takes place during the Second Punic War between Carthage and Rome, and the main characters are Hannibal and Scipio. (For some of the more modern characters that appear inside the individual chapters, browse my tags.)</p>
<p>Since the Punic Wars are not exactly common knowledge nowadays (I was born in the <a href="/2009/02/23/great-thought-continuous-partial-attention/#comment-1081">wrong generation</a>, by the way), I might start by setting those in context on <em>The Hannibal Blog</em>. What were they? Why were they? How are they still visible all around us today?</p>
<p>Would that be fun?</p>
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		<title>Livy and Polybius</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got an email from Fabrizio Dinatale, who is writing a dissertation at the University of Reading (UK) on Polybius and Livy. He asked my opinion on the &#8220;qualities/defects&#8221; attributed to each of them. Fabrizio, I replied to your email but I keep getting error messages. (&#8220;550 550 unrouteable address (state 14)&#8221;) Here is what [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1055&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got an email from Fabrizio Dinatale, who is writing a dissertation at the University of Reading (UK) on Polybius and Livy. He asked my opinion on the &#8220;qualities/defects&#8221; attributed to each of them.</p>
<p>Fabrizio, I replied to your email but I keep getting error messages. (&#8220;550 550 unrouteable address (state 14)&#8221;)</p>
<p>Here is what I said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Fabrizio,</p>
<p>your dissertation sounds fascinating. Send me a link once it&#8217;s finished and I might link to it. You will be the expert on the topic. I am, as you may have picked up from the blog, not a historian, just a writer who&#8217;s having fun with Hannibal and Scipio as the main characters in <a href="/about-the-book/">a book</a> about, well, you and me.</p>
<p>That said, Livy and Polybius are my main ancient sources, so I do have some impressions, as I said <a href="/2008/10/25/livy/">here</a> and <a href="/2008/10/21/polybius/">here</a>.</p>
<p>Polybius took Thucydides as his model, Livy Herodotus. Which is to say: Polybius believed in thorough research, fact-checking, original reporting, less embellishment. He personally interviewed eye witnesses and traveled the routes that Hannibal took, even over the Alps. He had a personal connection in that he was the tutor and friend of Scipio Aemilianus (Scipio Africanus&#8217; adoptive grandson) and stood next to him when the Romans burnt Carthage to the ground.</p>
<p>Polybius was writing for his fellow Greeks to explain how the most momentous event in history up to that time&#8211;Rome&#8217;s rise to superpower status&#8211;could have happened. And the biggest step in that rise was Rome&#8217;s near-death experience but ultimate victory over Hannibal.</p>
<p>Livy was completely different: somewhat lazy (he did not travel), and unconcerned about originality (ie, he plagiarized Polybius freely). He embellished liberally. Above all, he was writing less a history than propaganda, as you said. And for Romans, in Latin. His mission was to narrate the past, mythical and actual, in a coherent way that appeared inexorably to lead to &#8230; Augustus! Rome as the chosen people, you might say.</p>
<p>In that sense, he was not unlike Virgil, who went one step further in the Aeneid and implicitly tied Augustus to Aeneas as though everything had all been preordained all along.</p>
<p>Have fun. Again, i&#8217;ll be interested in what you end up concluding in your dissertation.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Beware the Catos in your life</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This face says it all. It is the misanthropic, miserly, humorless, prurient snout of Marcus Porcius Cato, better known as Cato the Elder. &#8220;Hell is other people,&#8221; said Jean-Paul Sartre, and I&#8217;m sure he had people such as Cato in mind. Cato showed up in ancient Rome wherever people were having fun to make them [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=1035&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>This face says it all. It is the misanthropic, miserly, humorless, prurient snout of Marcus Porcius Cato, better known as Cato the Elder.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hell is other people,&#8221; said Jean-Paul Sartre, and I&#8217;m sure he had people such as Cato in mind. Cato showed up in ancient Rome wherever people were having fun to make them feel guilty and sinful. Whenever anybody succeeded and earned fame or wealth or glory, Cato was there to dig up some dirt, spread a rumor, question some expense account (literally), all in order to take that person down a few notches.</p>
<p>If he had been alive in another era, he might have sat on the tribunals of the Spanish Inquisition. Or he might have been Senator Joseph McCarthy, or Kenneth Starr, or anybody who devotes his life to hounding others and destroying reputations.</p>
<p>Cato&#8217;s most famous victim was one of my heroes, and one of the main characters in <a href="/about-the-book/">my book</a>, the great Scipio Africanus. Cato envied and hated him. So he filed charge after charge, looking through every receipt in the great Scipio&#8217;s accounts, until Scipio was simply fed up and went into exile.</p>
<p>After Scipio died (in the same year as Hannibal), Cato needed a new target for his venom. He chose all of Carthage, which was now a docile and submissive part of the Roman empire. <em>Carthago delenda est!</em> Cato said at the end of every speech he gave, no matter what it was about.</p>
<p>And that is what the Romans eventually did. They ethnically cleansed the entire city of Carthage and razed it to the ground.</p>
<p>The lesson? Many. But one premise of my book is that <a href="/2008/11/29/the-ur-story/">the same archetypal chracters</a> appear again and again in history and in our own lives. Learn to recognize them, especially the Catos. They might be in the next cubicle, or one row behind you in the auditorium. They might be your boss or your employee, or your ex-spouse or a spurned lover. Somewhere, there is someone who hates to see you happy and successful and will exert all his energy to bring you down.<br />
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		<title>Hannibal: The limerick version</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loyal readers of the Hannibal Blog will by now be familiar with the wit of one Mr Crotchety, who visits regularly. He has, in this comment, expressed the epic life of the main character of my book&#8211;why yes, he has indeed&#8211;in the following limerick. There once was a General named Hannibal, ‘til the Romans found [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=954&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Loyal readers of the Hannibal Blog will by now be familiar with the wit of one Mr Crotchety, who visits regularly. He has, <a href="/2008/12/30/tennessee-williams-catastrophe-of-success/#comment-657">in this comment</a>, expressed the epic life of the main character of <a href="/about-the-book/">my book</a>&#8211;why yes, he has indeed&#8211;in the following limerick.</p>
<blockquote><p>There once was a General named Hannibal,<br />
‘til the Romans found his army untenable.<br />
His tactics were dodgy and favored by chance:<br />
like his father, he walked behind elephants and never wore pants.</p></blockquote>
<p>Subsequently, Mr Crotchety discovered that the correct rhyme scheme of a limerick is apparently AABBA, and the syllable count 9-9-6-6-9.</p>
<p>With that intelligence, I crafted my own initial response to this impertinence, which was this:</p>
<blockquote><p>There once was a lad named Hannibal<br />
and I don&#8217;t mean that one, the cannibal,<br />
The Alps this one crossed,<br />
then Romans he tossed,<br />
As though he were staging a carnival.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since that entirely omits the central thesis of my book, I then decided to have another crack at it:</p>
<blockquote><p>From Carthage he came, the Alps he crossed,<br />
Romans he routed in Trebia&#8217;s frost,<br />
he seemed to have won,<br />
at Cannae again,<br />
until it was clear he had instead lost</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Goldsworthy on The Punic Wars</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And back again to the bibliography for my book. We&#8217;re still in the &#8220;history&#8221; section, as opposed to the &#8220;biography&#8221; section, but we&#8217;ve mostly dealth with the ancient sources (Polybius, Livy and Plutarch). So now I&#8217;ll move into the modern writers. If I had to choose just one book to give you a fun but [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=679&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And back again to the <a href="/tag/bibliography/">bibliography</a> for <a href="/about-the-book/">my book</a>.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re still in the &#8220;history&#8221; section, as opposed to the &#8220;biography&#8221; section, but we&#8217;ve mostly dealth with the ancient sources (<a href="/2008/10/21/polybius/">Polybius</a>, <a href="/2008/10/25/livy/">Livy</a> and <a href="/2008/11/03/the-father-of-biography/">Plutarch</a>). So now I&#8217;ll move into the modern writers.</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 347px"><a href="http://www.orionbooks.co.uk/QandA.aspx?id=1975&amp;catID=5"><img src="http://www.orionbooks.co.uk/graphics/authors/1975_1.jpg" alt="Adrian Goldsworthy" width="337" height="226" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Adrian Goldsworthy</p></div>
<p>If I had to choose just one book to give you a fun but thorough overview of Hannibal, it would be Adrian Goldsworthy&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Punic-Wars-Adrian-Goldsworthy/dp/030435967X/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1226427972&amp;sr=8-15" target="_blank"><em>The Punic Wars</em></a>.<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Punic-Wars-Adrian-Goldsworthy/dp/030435967X/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1226427972&amp;sr=8-15"><img class="alignright" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JH18032TL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="240" /></a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually a good idea to read the story of all three Punic Wars in one, because you can&#8217;t understand Hannibal&#8217;s war (the Second Punic War) without the other two. It would be as though a history student two-thousand years from now were trying to understand World War II without knowing anything about World War I or the Cold War.</p>
<p>Goldsworthy does a good job of minimizing the clutter (footnotes, parenthetical interruptions aimed at other academics and such) that usually makes academic books unreadable. He gives you great context. For instance, it&#8217;s probably not immediately obvious why sieges almost never worked in the ancient world (which is important, since Hannibal, at the crucial moment, decided not to lay siege to Rome). So Goldsworthy describes what it was like to attack and defend a city&#8211;all the tunneling and ramming and laddering and sulphur-smeared-javelin-hurling and so forth.</p>
<p>Being British, Goldsworthy also lets his sense of <a href="/2008/08/17/on-irony/">irony</a> peek through on occasion, which brings relief. (Asked what his philosophy of life is, he tells his interlocutor <a href="http://www.orionbooks.co.uk/QandA.aspx?id=1975&amp;catID=5" target="_blank">here</a> that &#8220;I&#8217;m English, so obviously do not have a philosophy.&#8221; That&#8217;s the sort of thing I mean.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Caesar-Life-Colossus-Adrian-Goldsworthy/dp/0300126891/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1226427972&amp;sr=8-1"><img class="alignnone" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41jmAEQi4PL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg" alt="" width="168" height="168" /></a></p>
<p>His more recent book is a biography of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Caesar-Life-Colossus-Adrian-Goldsworthy/dp/0300126891/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1226427972&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Julius Caesar</a>, which I&#8217;ve also read and loved. But I&#8217;m forcing myself to leave Caesar out of my book because, as my wife has informed me, there are enough ancient dudes in it as it is.</p>
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		<title>Hannibal&#8217;s Y chromosome</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Click on this map and read about the latest in this fantastic research effort called the &#8220;genographic project&#8220;. The dots show the areas of the Mediterranean with the highest frequency of the Phoenician haplotype. They swabbed the cheeks of men from Syria and Cyprus to Malta and Morocco to have a closer look at the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=625&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Click on <a href="https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/genographic/StaticFiles/ProjectUpdates/Phoenician%20Footprints%20Map%20large.jpg" target="_blank">this map</a> and read about the latest in this fantastic research effort called the &#8220;<a href="https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/phoenician.html" target="_blank">genographic project</a>&#8220;. The dots show the areas of the Mediterranean with the highest frequency of the Phoenician <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplotype" target="_blank">haplotype</a>.</p>
<p>They swabbed the cheeks of men from Syria and Cyprus to Malta and Morocco to have a closer look at the Y chromosome of these guys. (The Y chromosome is passed from father to son, and so a good marker of paternal descent. Mitochondrial DNA, inherited only from the mother, does the same trick for maternal descent.)</p>
<p>The result, as the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/science/31genes.html?_r=1&amp;scp=2&amp;sq=phoenicians&amp;st=nyt&amp;oref=slogin" target="_blank"><em>New York Times</em> article</a> puts it, is that</p>
<blockquote><p>as many as 1 in 17 men living today on the coasts of North Africa and southern Europe may have a Phoenician direct male-line ancestor&#8230;</p>
<p>These men were found to retain identifiable genetic signatures from the nearly 1,000 years the Phoenicians were a dominant seafaring commercial power in the Mediterranean basin, until their conquest by Rome in the 2nd century B.C.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, why is this exciting for the Hannibal Blog? Because Hannibal was a Phoenician, as I explained <a href="/2008/08/03/denzels-african-hannibal/">here</a> when arguing that Denzel Washington, as much as I love that man, would not be the most ethnically correct choice of actor for this &#8220;African hero&#8221;.</p>
<p>Carthage, to remind, began as a Phoenician colony. The Roman word for Phoenician was <em>Punic</em>, hence the Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage. In Punic itself, the name Phoenicia means &#8220;land of purple&#8221;, because they loved that color and exported its dye.</p>
<p>Carthage&#8217;s mercenaries came from the other peoples of northern Africa at that time, the Numidians and the Libyans. The Numidians, as I said <a href="/2008/09/19/zidane-rode-for-hannibal/">here</a>, were the ancestors of today&#8217;s Berbers, and you might as well picture them looking like Zidane. The Libyans, as I said <a href="/2008/08/23/carthaginians-and-libyans/">here</a>, were not today&#8217;s Libyans, but &#8220;white&#8221; Mediterraneans. The Arabs, of course, showed up fully 900 years after Hannibal.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I left off my series on the bibliography for my book with a long post on Polybius. Polybius, as I said, was one of the greatest historians ever, but most of his books were lost. This means that for the history of Hannibal&#8217;s war against Rome we have to rely heavily on another ancient source. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=608&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/History-Rome-Foundation-Books-XXI-XXX/dp/014044145X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1224972972&amp;sr=8-3"><img class="alignleft" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21by810z96L._SL500_BO2,204,203,200_AA219_PIsitb-sticker-dp-arrow,TopRight,-24,-23_SH20_OU01_.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="240" /></a>I left off my series on the <a href="/tag/bibliography/">bibliography</a> for <a href="/about-the-book/">my book</a> with a long post on <a href="/2008/10/21/polybius/">Polybius</a>. Polybius, as I said, was one of the greatest historians ever, but most of his books were lost. This means that for the history of Hannibal&#8217;s war against Rome we have to rely heavily on another ancient source. And that is Titus Livius, or Livy in English.</p>
<p>There are big problems with Livy. He lived a century and a half after Hannibal&#8217;s war. Polybius had interviewed eye witnesses and traveled Hannibal&#8217;s route, but Livy did not even attempt any such research. Instead, he merrily plagiarized Polybius (and mentions him only once, by my count). At least we can take comfort from knowing that he had <em>all</em> of Polybius available to him, as well as other sources lost to us, such as Roman documents.</p>
<p>The next problem is that Livy had an agenda other than telling the best and purest history. Like his contemporary Virgil, Livy was writing under the reign of the emperor Augustus, who &#8220;restored&#8221; Rome&#8217;s republic after the long civil wars by replacing it with a monarchy in all but name.</p>
<p>Virgil responded by writing an epic poem, the Aeneid, placing Augustus in the context of a noble unfolding of destiny. A literary masterwork, but somewhat close to brown-nosing the great emperor. Livy sort of did the same, only in prose. So he starts his &#8220;history&#8221; with Aeneas&#8217; flight from Troy, his journey to Italy, Romulus and Remus and so forth.</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 447px"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BarocciAeneas.jpg"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/BarocciAeneas.jpg" alt="Aeneas flees burning Troy" width="437" height="303" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Aeneas flees burning Troy</p></div>
<p>In general, Livy always makes the Romans look good and their enemies look bad. So the Gauls are unreliable and lazy brutes. The Greeks are savvy but slimy know-it-alls. The Carthaginians are either cruel or cunning or miserly or deceitful. Much of Livy is propaganda. Awfully entertaining propaganda, as it happens.</p>
<p>So if Polybius clearly emulated his fellow Greek Thucydides in trying to stay close to facts and analysis, Livy takes Herodotus as his example and embellishes and invents freely for the sake of a cracking good read. At that, he succeeds.</p>
<p>When the Europeans woke up at the end of the Middle Ages and rediscovered the classics, Livy became one of their favorites.</p>
<p>Personally, I couldn&#8217;t care less about Livy&#8217;s shortcomings. I&#8217;m in it for the stories, the characters, the scenes that I need to tell the story that I want to tell, which involves so many other people. More to come soon.</p>
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		<title>Hannibal&#8217;s brother and &#8230; Mayonnaise!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every now and then I convince myself that that I know quite a bit about ancient history, and then I stumble across something not just new but whiplashingly new. Did you know that the word mayonnaise is named after Hannibal&#8217;s youngest brother? According to Livius, it came about as follows: Hannibal&#8217;s brother was named Mago [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=387&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every now and then I convince myself that that I know quite a bit about ancient history, and then I stumble across something not just new but whiplashingly new. Did you know that the word <em>mayonnaise </em>is named after Hannibal&#8217;s youngest brother?</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.livius.org/maa-mam/mago/mago.html" target="_blank">Livius</a>, it came about as follows: Hannibal&#8217;s brother was named Mago (a common Carthaginian/Punic name), and he</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; lives on in a most surprising way. On Menorca, he had founded the city that is still called Port Mahon. The typical local egg sauce that has conquered the world is known as <em>mayonnaise</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>And while we&#8217;re on the subject of Hannibal&#8217;s brothers:</p>
<div id="attachment_388" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 192px"><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Hasdrubal_coin.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-388" title="hasdrubal_coin" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/hasdrubal_coin.jpg" alt="Hasdrubal Barca's head, before the Romans got it" width="182" height="185" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Hasdrubal&#39;s head (before Roman cosmetic intervention)</p></div>
<p>Hasdrubal, who was younger than Hannibal but older than Mago, died valiantly in battle against the Romans as he tried to bring a second invasion army to Italy to support Hannibal.</p>
<p>The Romans cut off his head. Then they marched it to the other end of Italy and catapulted it into Hannibal&#8217;s camp. Hannibal, who still did not even know that Hasdrubal had arrived in Italy, last saw his brother&#8217;s face &#8230;. as it rolled toward him.</p>
<p>So it goes, as Vonnegut would say. But those Romans sure had a way of doing things.</p>
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		<title>Zidane rode for Hannibal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is really cool. I learned something that has long puzzled me, and I did it through blogging.</p>
<p>You recall that <a href="/2008/08/23/carthaginians-and-libyans/" target="_blank">I recommended</a> a blog post by <a href="http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-ancient-libyans/#comment-792" target="_blank">Mathilda</a>, in which she explains the ethnic categories of &#8220;Africans&#8221; in antiquity. (In a nutshell: &#8220;Libyan&#8221; = white; &#8220;Ethiopian&#8221; = black). All of which fascinates me because I want to form the most accurate picture possible of what Hannibal, a Carthaginian, and his Numidian and Iberian allies <a href="/2008/08/03/denzels-african-hannibal/" target="_blank">may have looked like</a>.</p>
<p>And now somebody named Ureus left <a href="http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-ancient-libyans/#comment-1009" target="_blank">this comment</a> (thank you, Ureus!) in which he/she explains that:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am also a descendant of the Numidians, but nowadays we are called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabyle_people" target="_blank">Kabyle Berbers</a>.<br />
Contrary to the Afrocentrist view; we are a white Mediterranean race. For the Afro-centrists out there: even the word Africa is of Berber origin; it comes from the word Ifriqiya, which designated the tribal territory of the Berber tribes of Northern Tunisia.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fine, so how should we picture these Numidians, who were the fiercest horsemen of antiquity (they rode without stirrups or saddles and wrought havoc on the Romans in Hannibal&#8217;s battles)? Well, here is one Kabyle Berber you may have seen before:</p>
<div id="attachment_1618" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 298px"><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zinedine_Zidane_2008.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1618" title="576px-zinedine_zidane_2008" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/576px-zinedine_zidane_2008.jpg?w=288&#038;h=300" alt="Zidane, a Kabyle Berber" width="288" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Zidane, a Kabyle Berber</p></div>
<p>The Beeb (BBC, for the Americans) has a Q&amp;A on Berbers<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3509799.stm" target="_blank"> here</a>.</p>
<p>Now, if somebody could please help me with the &#8220;Iberians&#8221;, please?<br />
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		<title>Hannibal&#8217;s life in eight minutes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well-made YouTube video (meaning: hewing closely to Polybius and Livy) about Hannibal&#8217;s life, by Wolfshead: Interesting moment of interpretation: why Hannibal, in this version, chose not to take Rome itself, which was the single biggest decision of his life. &#8220;We are not animals,&#8221; he says here. (Also: did I detect stirrups on the cavalry? Maybe [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=235&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well-made YouTube video (meaning: hewing closely to Polybius and Livy) about Hannibal&#8217;s life, by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/WoIfshead" target="_blank">Wolfshead:</a></p>
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://andreaskluth.org/2008/08/25/hannibals-life-in-eight-minutes/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/MveyHX7fmfA/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span>
<p>Interesting moment of interpretation: <em>why</em> Hannibal, in this version, chose not to take Rome itself, which was the single biggest decision of his life. &#8220;We are not animals,&#8221; he says here.</p>
<p>(Also: did I detect stirrups on the cavalry? Maybe not. There weren&#8217;t any in those days.)</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great research by Mathilda about ancient Libyans here. In a nutshell, the ancients apparently considered &#8220;whites&#8221; living in Africa to be &#8220;Libyans&#8221;, in contrast to &#8220;black&#8221; Africans, who were called &#8220;Ethiopians.&#8221; This fits my previous description of Hannibal and the Carthaginians, according to which Denzel would not be the most historically correct choice of actor. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=228&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great research by Mathilda about ancient Libyans <a href="http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-ancient-libyans/#comment-792" target="_blank">here</a>. In a nutshell, the ancients apparently considered &#8220;whites&#8221; living in Africa to be &#8220;Libyans&#8221;, in contrast to &#8220;black&#8221; Africans, who were called &#8220;Ethiopians.&#8221;</p>
<p>This fits my previous description of <a href="/2008/08/03/denzels-african-hannibal/" target="_blank">Hannibal and the Carthaginians, according to which Denzel would not be the most historically correct choice of actor</a>.</p>
<p>Hannibal&#8217;s mercenary army, incidentally, contained lots of &#8220;Libyans&#8221;, alongside lots of &#8220;Numidians&#8221;, who were the most feared horsemen of their day, and &#8220;Iberians&#8221;, &#8220;Celto-Iberians&#8221; and Gauls. Then there were assorted other types, such as the renowned slingers from the Balearic islands (Mallorca, Menorca and Ibiza), who apparently trained by shooting birds out of the sky with their slingshots. I&#8217;m trying to find out more about all these ancient tribal and ethnic categories. More to come.</p>
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		<title>The map of Hannibal&#8217;s march and life</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Join me for a moment in having fun with this map below. It comes to us, via the Wikimedia Commons, from Frank Martini, a cartographer in the Department of History at the United States Military Academy. There are two ways of looking at this map&#8211;one obvious and one surprising and cheeky&#8211;and I will avail myself [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=200&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join me for a moment in having fun with this map below.</p>
<p>It comes to us, via the Wikimedia Commons, from Frank Martini, a cartographer in the Department of History at the United States Military Academy.</p>
<p>There are two ways of looking at this map&#8211;one obvious and one surprising and cheeky&#8211;and I will avail myself of both. Bear with me. First the map, and the obvious:</p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Hannibal_route_of_invasion.gif"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-204" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/793px-hannibal_route_of_invasion.gif" alt="" width="500" height="378" /></a></p>
<p>What we see here, obviously, is the western Mediterranean at the time of the Second Punic War (the &#8220;Hannibalic War&#8221;). Notice Carthage at the tip of northern Africa (in today&#8217;s Tunisia); Cartagena or &#8220;Little Carthage&#8221; in Spain, <a href="/2008/08/06/hannibal-in-colombia-catalonia-missouri/" target="_blank">which I mentioned in an earlier post</a>; Gades, which is today&#8217;s Cadiz; Saguntum (Sagunto), which was ethnically Greek; Massilia (today&#8217;s Marseilles), also ethnically Greek; Turin (Torino) which was not yet party of &#8220;Italy&#8221; but part of Gaul; and Ariminum (Rimini), the Roman colony at the edge of their frontier with the Gauls.</p>
<p>Now look at Hannibal&#8217;s march itself. In 218 BCE he crossed the Pyrenees and into Gaul. The line casually crosses the Rhone, even though this involved one of the most colorful operations in history (of which more in a later post&#8211;think elephants on rafts), and then, equally casually, crosses the Alps (of which much, much more in later posts).</p>
<p>You then see where Hannibal won his famous victories, at the Ticinus (more of a skirmish), at the Trebia, at Lake Trasimene and at Cannae. And then you see the line of his path getting&#8230;. confusing!</p>
<p>Now the less obvious way of looking at this map: Squint! As you squint, look only at the line of the march. It is a fitting life trajectory for Hannibal himself. It rises early and steeply, peaks, then declines and loses itself completely in a confused and erratic hairball.</p>
<p>How would you draw the map if it were proportionate to time, rather than distance? The entire stretch from Cartagena to Cannae, his greatest victory, took a little over <strong>two years</strong>. All the twists and turns after Cannae (there were actually far too many to draw on a map) took&#8230;. <strong>fourteen years!</strong></p>
<p>After those fourteen years, Hannibal lived another <strong>nineteen years</strong> until he committed suicide, but most of that took place on a different map, in the eastern Mediterranean.</p>
<p>And yet, if you read the existing histories, you would think that 90% of Hannibal&#8217;s life took place in those initial two years.</p>
<p>Those years are the <em>impostor</em> years. The next thirty-three are the <em>story</em> of how and why he realized that his triumphs had been impostors. And this, <a href="/about-the-book/" target="_blank">in my book</a>, is where his life becomes universal and directly relevant for our own lives today.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s have even more fun and turn the map around:</p>
<p><a href="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/793px-hannibal_route_of_invasion-inverted.gif"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-209" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/793px-hannibal_route_of_invasion-inverted.gif" alt="" width="500" height="378" /></a></p>
<p>Now you have, more or less, the life trajectory of the Romans, in particular Fabius and Scipio, my two other main characters.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.swarthmore.edu/~apreset1/docs/if.html" target="_blank">Kipling&#8217;s impostors</a>, you see, visited with them in mirror image.</p>
<p>Why and how did all this happen over all those decades? In exactly the same way as it happens to most of us in our much smaller(-seeming) lives, it turns out. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m writing a book about it.</p>
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		<title>About Hannibal&#8217;s elephants</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Note to readers: I have corrected and updated this post here.) So the other day I get a text message from our dear friends, the Rammings, with an urgent plea to intervene in one of their heated controversies around the dinner table of their rustic farm house in hip and rural North Carolina. James Ramming, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=164&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>(Note to readers: I have corrected and updated this post <a href="/2011/03/07/my-elephantine-mistake/">here</a>.)</strong></em></p>
<p>So the other day I get a text message from our dear friends, the Rammings, with an urgent plea to intervene in one of their heate<a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Comic_History_of_Rome_p_173_Hannibal_crossing_the_Alps.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-163 alignleft" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/482px-comic_history_of_rome_p_173_hannibal_crossing_the_alps.jpg?w=241&#038;h=300" alt="" width="241" height="300" /></a>d controversies around the dinner table of their rustic farm house in hip and rural North Carolina. James Ramming, aged eleven and studying Latin (and contemplating adding Greek), was contesting whether Hannibal&#8217;s famous elephants were &#8230;. Indian or African. It&#8217;s the obvious first question to ask about his elephants, which must be why the adult experts <em>never</em> ask it.</p>
<p>I pick up the phone and report for duty. And as I talk I discover &#8230;. that I have no idea what the answer is. So I extricate myself from the conversation with James and go back to our trusted old friends, Polybius and Livy. Those two, it turns out, didn&#8217;t even know enough to ask the question. (How many elephants would a Greek and a Roman historian in those days have seen?)</p>
<p>The fact that Hannibal took war elephants with him in his attack on Rome&#8211;and crossed with them over the snowy Alps&#8211;is usually the first and only thing that people know about Hannibal. It&#8217;s entered our collective lore. Above, a snivelly-nosed Hannibal on a (vaguely Indian-looking?) elephant who seems to be going shopping. Below, a more dramatic rendition of the Alpine crossing, with (vaguely African-looking?) elephants tumbling into the gorges as the mountain Gauls attack from the heights. (Actually, Polybius says that all the elephants survived.)</p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Hannibal3.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-165 alignright" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/520px-hannibal3.jpg?w=260&#038;h=300" alt="" width="260" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>Well, which is it? One line in the middle of this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant" target="_blank">Wikipedia entry </a>claims that</p>
<blockquote><p>he probably used a now-extinct third African (sub)species, the North African (Forest) elephant, smaller than its two southern cousins, and presumably easier to domesticate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Makes sense. After all, Carthage was <em>in</em> Africa. Except that I don&#8217;t think so. <a href="2008/08/03/denzels-african-hannibal/" target="_blank">I&#8217;ve already written about</a> the trouble we get into when we confuse Carthage&#8217;s geography with modern notions of human race, what we might call the &#8220;Denzel trope&#8221;. I think the same applies to elephant race.</p>
<p>This <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_elephant" target="_blank">Wikipedia article</a> talks about the origins of <em>war elephants</em> in India. It is these that Alexander the Great would have encountered. Then he died and his generals, notably Seleucus and Ptolemy, carved up his empire to start their own kingdoms. They also seem to have taken over the tradition of fighting with war elephants. Carthage&#8217;s mother city, Tyre in modern Lebanon, was in the Seleucid empire, which included Syria. I think that Carthage, a naval empire oriented toward its mother city in the East more than toward the lands south across the Sahara, would have got its elephants from there. Hence, they would have been Indian.</p>
<p>That might explain why Hannibal&#8217;s favorite elephant&#8211;<a href="/2008/08/09/hunky-hero-hannibal/" target="_blank">the one he was riding through the swamp when he caught the infection that blinded one of his eyes</a>&#8211;was named Surus, &#8220;the Syrian&#8221;.</p>
<p>In any case, those beasts scared the bejeezus out of the Romans. War elephants were the tanks of antiquity. If things went according to plan (a big <em>if</em>), they plowed into the enemy ranks and broke up the formation. All the time, the archers and javelin-throwers were firing from their little fortress mounted on the elephant. Check out this fearsome rendition of the battle of Zama:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Schlacht_bei_Zama_Gem%C3%A4lde_H_P_Motte.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-166" src="http://andreaskluth.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/schlacht_bei_zama_gemalde_h_p_motte.jpg?w=568&#038;h=369" alt="" width="568" height="369" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather be one of the guys on top in that one. Except&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Except that this was one of those many cases where things went wrong for the side with the elephants. Modern tanks go kaputt but not berserk. Ancient tanks went berserk. If they panicked, they were as likely to turn around and plow into their own ranks (the elephants didn&#8217;t care, after all). That happened here at Zama. For that reason, the elephants usually had mahouts with lances (you can see them in the picture), whose job was to kill the elephant as soon as he or she (both males and females were used) threatened the home side.</p>
<p>Long story short. Probably a <a href="http://elephant.elehost.com/About_Elephants/Stories/Evolution/evolution.html" target="_blank">sub-species of Indian</a>. And soooo much fun to imagine. More, much more, in future posts.</p>
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		<title>Hannibal in Colombia, Catalonia, Missouri</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alright, Hannibal did not actually go to South America and Missouri, in large part because he didn&#8217;t know that they existed. But have you ever wondered why more than a million Colombians on the steamy Caribbean coast live in a city called Cartagena? Because Colombia was Spanish, of course, and there is a city in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=119&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, Hannibal did not actually go to South America and Missouri, in large part because he didn&#8217;t know that they existed. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But have you ever wondered why more than a million Colombians on the steamy Caribbean coast live in a city called <strong>Cartagena</strong>? Because Colombia was Spanish, of course, and there is a city in Spain (Murcia) that is called Cartagena. But why is <em>that</em> city called Cartagena? Because it was founded by Hannibal&#8217;s brother-in-law, Hasdrubal (not to be confused with his biological brother, also named Hasdrubal), who made it Carthage&#8217;s regional capital. He called it <em>Little Carthage</em>, or <em>Little New City</em>, since Carthage is Punic for <em>New City,</em> <a href="/2008/08/03/denzels-african-hannibal/" target="_blank">as mentioned already</a>.</p>
<p>When the great Scipio, another of my heroes and Hannibal&#8217;s eventual nemesis, conquered Spain, he renamed it New Carthage (<em>Carthago Nova</em>), thus inadvertently calling it <em>New New City</em>. Oh well, nobody&#8217;s perfect.</p>
<p>Now, how about that fantastic party town with all that great Gaudi architecture, <strong>Barcelona</strong>? Hannibal&#8217;s clan or family name, <a href="/2008/08/03/semitic-hannibal/" target="_blank">you recall</a>, was Barca. Sounds suspiciously similar, doesn&#8217;t it? Barcelona probably started as the &#8220;camp of the Barcas&#8221;, when Hamilcar, with his young son Hannibal in tow, showed up in Spain to conquer it. Hannibal later would have passed nearby on his way to the Alps and Italy.</p>
<p>And what about that town in <strong>Missouri</strong> on the Mississippi, where Mark Twain grew up and had his Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn get into all sorts of trouble? It&#8217;s called Hannibal. I must assume that it&#8217;s named after my hero/antihero, but I&#8217;ve not actually been able to verify that. If anybody knows, please drop me a line below.</p>
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		<title>Semitic Hannibal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Kluth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The previous post was about Hannibal&#8217;s ethnicity, this one is about his language. For the record, I love language&#8211;whether that means being wantonly pedantic or tracing words to their etymological origins. Let me do the latter now, to show that Hannibal was a Semite. Just to be clear: The word semitic, properly used, has a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=andreaskluth.org&amp;blog=4256403&amp;post=98&amp;subd=andreaskluth&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="/2008/08/03/denzels-african-hannibal/" target="_blank">previous post</a> was about Hannibal&#8217;s ethnicity, this one is about his language.</p>
<p>For the record, I love language&#8211;whether that means <a href="/2008/07/21/shakespeares-like-you-like-it-my-favorite-grammar-felony/" target="_blank">being wantonly pedantic</a> or tracing words to their etymological origins. Let me do the latter now, to show that Hannibal was a Semite. Just to be clear: The word <em>semitic</em>, properly used, has a linguistic, not an ethnic, context (just as, say, Germanic or Anglo-Saxon are terms about language, not ethnicity.)</p>
<p>Hannibal&#8217;s clan name was <strong>Barca</strong>. <em>Barca</em> means &#8216;lightning&#8217; (quite fitting, don&#8217;t you think?). <em>Barca</em> also tells us about the Punic language.</p>
<p>For explanation, I asked Rutie Adler, a scholar and the coordinator of the Hebrew Language Program in the <a href="http://neareastern.berkeley.edu/" target="_blank">Department of Near Eastern Studies</a> at UC Berkeley.</p>
<p>Punic (the Roman world for Phoenician), she said, is a Northwest-Semitic language, and thus closely related to Hebrew and somewhat more distantly related to Arabic. A good family tree is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Thus the Punic word for lightning, <em>Barca</em>, is essentially the Hebrew word <em>Barak</em> (as in Ehud Barak, former prime minister of Israel, but not as in Barack Obama).</p>
<p>It is also the Arab word <em>Buraq</em>, which happens to be the name of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq" target="_blank">winged horse</a> that carried Muhammad from Mecca to Jerusalem and back during his night journey.</p>
<p>Cool, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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